RIPE 73 RIPE NCC Services Working Group Minutes

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Wednesday, 26 October 2016, 17:00 – 18:30
WG co-Chairs: Bijal Sanghani, Kurtis Lindqvist
Scribe: Gerardo Viviers
Status: Final

A. Administrative Matters [5 min]

• Welcome
• Select a scribe
• Finalise agenda
• Approve minutes from RIPE 72

WG Chair Kurtis Lindqvist opened the session (“the favourite WG of everyone here”) promoting the working group activities. He announced the need to have a sticker to participate in the RIPE NCC General Meeting, then went through a preview of the session's agenda and thanked the scribe.

Kurtis mentioned that he couldn't ask for approval of the RIPE 72 draft minutes. The minutes were not sent out yet. Kurtis requested them to be sent out.

B. RIPE NCC 2016 Survey Results [20 min] - Serge Radovcic, RIPE NCC, and Desiree Miloshevic, Oxford Internet Institute

The presentation is available at:

There were no questions.

C. RIPE NCC Operational Update [15 min] - Andrew de la Haye, RIPE NCC

The presentation is available at:

Adewole Ajao, AFRINIC PDWG, asked what triggers an Assisted Registry Check (ARC) in the case that a member is not sending a request for a new resource to the RIPE NCC.

Andrew explained that ARCs are random and the intention is to perform an ARC on a member every three years. Andrew goes on to explain how an ARC is done and mentioned that through certain projects the RIPE NCC finds that certain members appear to have more need of an ARC. These members are consequently ARCed. Andrew explained that there are multiple triggers for an ARC, such as a change of address or telephone number.

There were no further questions.

D. RIPE NCC Outlook 2016-2017 [20 min] - Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC

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Alexander Isavnin, the open Net, asked how the RIPE NCC is selecting the survey operator. He pointed out the need for the operator to be not only well known, but also trusted and independent.

Axel asked Serge Radovcic to reply.

Serge mentioned that the RIPE NCC has used the Oxford Internet Institute three times already and is happy with the results. The RIPE NCC may put out a call for other operators in the future.

There were no further questions.

E. Good of the Internet Initiatives [20 min] - Salam Yamout, RIPE NCC Executive Board Member

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There were no questions.

F. RIPE NCC External Engagement [20 min] - Maria Häll, RIPE NCC Executive Board Member

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Alexander Isavnin, the open Net, mentions that he agrees with all the relations to governments, but notes that transparency is an important part of the RIPE and RIPE NCC processes. Alexander noticed the word “transparency” not appearing in the presentation.

Maria agrees that transparency is closely linked to accountability.

Taras Geychenko, Hostmaster LLC, asked if due to governments blocking Ukraine, TCP packets would stop going from Ukraine to London and back.

Maria replied that she didn't have the answer to that question.

Axel Pawlik, RIPE NCC, mentioned that the RIPE NCC has had interactions with local governments and ministries and legal people and the outcome is that what the RIPE NCC is doing is fine. The Board has given the RIPE NCC instructions to keep open communications and continue providing services to the members, wherever they may be within the RIPE NCC service region.

There were no further questions.

G. Open Microphone Session [5 min]

There were no questions.

H. Any other business

Kurtis reminded the attendees of the need for a sticker to enter the RIPE NCC General Meeting and closed the session.

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