Chat Logs
Chat logs of the General Meeting 14 May 2025.
Serbulov Dmitry - 2025-05-14 15:46:07
Hi all!
Andreas Wittkemper - 2025-05-14 15:46:17
Hi everyone
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 15:47:33
Hello and welcome, everyone!
Michael Stenz - 2025-05-14 15:48:26
never seen such a bad meeting room software. can it be that it is not compatible with Firefox, speaker configuration does not work.
Sebastien Brossier - 2025-05-14 15:48:56
Hello everyone
Alexey Lukoyanov - 2025-05-14 15:51:33
👋
Serbulov Dmitry - 2025-05-14 15:51:35
Michael Stenz - my firefox looks like working with meetchat.
Michael Stenz - 2025-05-14 15:52:19
Serbulov Dmitry - i am in with Chrome now. worked directly. firefox doesnt even show the "slide"
Sebastien Brossier - 2025-05-14 15:55:37
Michael: I always use meetecho with Firefox (both windows and linux) and it works fine. Maybe you have WebRTC disabled ?
Michael Stenz - 2025-05-14 15:57:15
@sebastien Brossier: I am not aware of disabling anything like this. I use other meeting software with it frequently with no issues.
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 15:57:46
I am on Firefox
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 15:57:50
No issues i can see so far.
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 15:58:09
Not that the stream itself has started yet, Just the "General meeting" slide.
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 15:58:19
meetecho works pretty out of the box with all common browsers, if you have a problem, it's most likely a local one
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 15:58:43
(Firefox @ macos here atm)
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 16:00:49
Hi everyone, I'm Ulka Athale from the RIPE NCC. This chat panel is meant for discussion ONLY. If you have questions for the speaker and you want the session chair to read them out, please write them in the Q&A window, also stating your affiliation. Otherwise, you can ask questions using the microphone icon. Please note that all chat transcripts will be archived and made available to the public at https://www.ripe.net/s/gm/may-2025 The RIPE Code of Conduct applies: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-766/
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 16:01:52
ok i hear sound now
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 16:03:05
There are a number of Mozilla folks at the IETF whom use MeetEcho for those events, so I would assume they know how to make it work/would be interested in ensuring it works well with Firefox. :)
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 16:04:05
When you get it working, MeetEcho is much nicer than most *hybrid* meeting packages.
Antoin Verschuren - 2025-05-14 16:23:40
You cannot port a Dutch mobile number to a German provider. Case closed.
Robert Scheck - 2025-05-14 16:28:55
And I can not port my German domain from DENIC to NIC.CZ.
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 16:37:55
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Pierre-Emmanuel LE THIEC - 2025-05-14 16:38:02
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Antoin Verschuren - 2025-05-14 16:38:22
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Vitaly Glotov - 2025-05-14 16:38:56
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Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 16:44:58
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Fredrik Pettai - 2025-05-14 16:45:10
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Robert Scheck - 2025-05-14 16:46:26
Microphone is not working…
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 16:46:38
transcript 4tw
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 16:46:39
for production: the microphone is only connected to the AV in building, not the stream
Peter Thiele - 2025-05-14 16:46:58
we dont hear the answer
Sebastian Wiesinger - 2025-05-14 16:46:59
We can't hear him
Tobia Castaldi - 2025-05-14 16:47:13
the audio team is woring on it
Will van Gulik - 2025-05-14 16:47:32
I think the transcript is an option
Andreas Wittkemper - 2025-05-14 16:47:46
mic not connected to the stream , that is a first....
Andreas Wittkemper - 2025-05-14 16:48:42
Can Ray go to a mic which is connected to the stream next time
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 16:48:43
We cant hear the answers at all.
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 16:48:49
this one works
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 16:58:49
Just out of interest, if Iran and Syria were in the APNIC region, rather than RIPE, would life be any easier for them?
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 17:00:02
You may want to use the QA button for that Aleksi
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:00:59
dunno, I meant it as a discussion point for now, not as a question for the board
Jan Kuipers - 2025-05-14 17:01:02
With APNIC based in Australia, the risk countries would be Iran and North Korea , so it would help Syria maybe
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:06:57
On a bigger scale, if all of Middle East was moved from RIPE to APNIC, would there be countries that would have more problems than they have now?
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:10:32
Why? Could you give an example of what you think might change?
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:11:49
No, I don't know of any countries that would be sanctioned by Australia, but no the Netherlands, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:13:32
I don't personally believe that the Internet users in any country deserve to be thrown like hot potatoes because of the actions of their leaders. They have enough problems.
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:14:18
There are enough bills being settled in the rest of the region.
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:15:20
I agree, it's not my intention that "we should get rid of a problem region", I'm just wondering if they are best served by RIPE or would they be better served by the Asian RIR.
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:15:45
*If * they were, for how long would that be true?
Sebastian Wiesinger - 2025-05-14 17:28:24
Is Lu Heng threatening legal action against the RIPE NCC because he was rejected as Sponsor?
Brian Nisbet - 2025-05-14 17:29:27
Yes
Sebastian Wiesinger - 2025-05-14 17:30:28
Why would RIPE NCC ever select such a bad faith actor as sponsor? I would rather have no meeting as a meeting with his company as sponsor.
Marco d'Itri - 2025-05-14 17:30:31
Would it be legal to refuse his sponsorship because we do not like his face? Just asking.
Jonas Schäfer - 2025-05-14 17:30:51
Kudos to RIPE NCC for rejecting the money.
Brian Nisbet - 2025-05-14 17:30:55
No company nor event is forced to take sponsorship from anyone. They don't need a reason.
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:30:57
I don't think there even needs to be a reason for refusing money.
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 17:31:41
Just don't feed the trolls (old internet saying...)
Sebastian Wiesinger - 2025-05-14 17:31:50
He is not a troll.
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 17:33:23
I don't think I can phrase it differently without probably getting in trouble with the code of conduct ;-)
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 17:34:05
What is even "His company"? If i am allowed to ask.
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 17:34:30
Does he have a company in Madagascar?
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 17:35:54
Here is the link on screen:
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 17:35:55
https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/discharge-of-the-executive-board/
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:40:58
Is there a full transcript from this meeting available? The transcript only shows from the point when you open it, no scroll back.
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:41:09
(Or will there be one available)
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 17:41:13
The full transcript will be uploaded after the meeting
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:41:20
Thank you, Ulka
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 17:44:51
We also publish the chat logs, Tom. Here's where they'll appear when ready... https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2025/documentation-and-archives/
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 17:47:06
Thanks Fergal. Hi future Tom!
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 17:47:30
You're welcome. Future Fergal
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 17:52:02
Here is the link Peter showed, which has the draft report: https://www.ripe.net/membership/mail/member-and-community-consultations/charging-scheme-task-force-2024/
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 18:15:28
I love bureaucracy :->
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 18:18:54
That's not the audio - to clarify
Robert Scheck - 2025-05-14 18:19:06
Well…that did work. Not.
Aleksi Suhonen - 2025-05-14 18:19:51
sound is coming to the stream through the room microphones again
Mathias Westerlund - 2025-05-14 18:19:54
No audio coming through to the stream
Robert Scheck - 2025-05-14 18:20:03
No audio via the stream directly, just via audience?
Will van Gulik - 2025-05-14 18:20:05
seems they're fixing it
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 18:20:14
Yep, much better
Nicklas Yli-Länttä - 2025-05-14 18:20:26
Seems like they fixed the audio
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 18:20:52
The videos are also available online: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2025/executive-board-election/watch-candidate-statements/
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 18:26:55
If you would like to learn more about how instant run off voting works, we have an explainer video: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/voting/
Fergal Cunningham - 2025-05-14 18:28:08
If you didn't get the emails, please email agm@ripe.net
Ulka Athale - 2025-05-14 18:31:48
And the how to vote page is here: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2025/how-to-vote/
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 18:36:26
Is this Kevin Meynell the same Kevin Meynell whom is associated with the SCION Association?
Sascha Lenz - 2025-05-14 18:36:27
👏
Will van Gulik - 2025-05-14 18:36:34
yes tom
Tom Hill - 2025-05-14 18:36:40
Why isn't that declared?