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Kurt Jaeger
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Wed Aug 13 17:03:33 CEST 2003
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:17:27PM +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote: [...] > I'm not against a number of the RIPE's activities, in fact some > of the work that has been done has been great, but it needs to have > strong foundations and support from the RIPE NCC members and > stakeholders and at the moment that isn't the case. Most of the tasks RIPE is taking up are things that *are* of relevance, but most members do not notice the relevance for a few years *after* 8-) E.g. the k-root multisite experiment or the anti-spam wg (which lagged, but was and is very important). > I'd hazard a guess that a vast majority of the members > signed up so they can register IP addresses, AS numbers and get > reverse DNS and if all the other stuff stopped tomorrow that they > wouldn't even notice. Yes, they would not notice for a few years and then would wake up and say "We *had* this and killed it, my, now, that we need it". > The purpose of the RIPE NCC are the registration services which is what > we signed up for. The purpose extends to other important areas, and they need to be covered in an open manner. I know other ways this can be covered (DE-NIC, ECO) and I do not prefer those ways. It was suggested: "If you need lobbying, start another group". I've done that already (www.ispeg.de, very german-centric), but this does not keep me from wanting RIPE being the platform for advanced topics it currently is. > There are a several other organisations that have been setup working > with the public and the media to lobby specific points and actions. Yes, and most/all of them failed for critical mass, skills, person power, influence, you name it. > > About the RIPE meetings: They are crucially important > > to the functioning of the RIPE NCC, and of industry > > self regulation. Yes, they should be self supporting, > > but they aren't fully. Can we raise the meeting fees? How much is required to cover all the costs ? -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to go ! LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi at LF.net Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372
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