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Fergal Cunningham
fergalc at ripe.net
Tue Apr 23 10:56:13 CEST 2024
Hi Pavel, As I mentioned in my previous email, certain agenda items may only be proposed by the Executive Board. The Articles of Association indicate the following items: - The adoption of the Charging Scheme with respect to the coming financial year (Art. 15.4.b) - The adoption of amendments to the Standard Service Agreement (Art. 15.5.c) - The approval of new arbiters and/or dismissal of current arbiters and/or adoption of amendments to the arbitration procedure (Art 15.5.d) https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2024-April/005454.html Best regards, Fergal On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:31 PM Pavel Odintsov <ripe at pavel-odintsov.com> wrote: > Hello, Fergal! > > Thank you very much for providing feedback and clarifying this point. > > I'm not sure that I clearly understand reasons about inability to alter > this specific proposal. > > In current https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-818/ articles of > association I can see section 15.6: > > 15.6 On the application In Writing of a group of Members who are jointly > entitled to cast at least two percent (2%) of the total number of possible > votes, other subjects will be added to the agenda. Such an application, > accompanied by the verbatim text of the resolutions proposed by the said > Members, shall have to be sent to the Executive Board at least two weeks > before the Meeting. > > The Executive Board shall immediately send the verbatim text of the > resolutions proposed by the said Members to all the Members of the > Association. > > I do not see any limitations about types of proposals here. > > Can you clarify why we have these constraints? > > Thank you! > > On Monday, 22 April 2024 at 15:57, Fergal Cunningham <fergalc at ripe.net> > wrote: > > Dear Dmytro, > > Making resolutions on the charging scheme for next year is solely the > responsibility of the Executive Board. Proposing different versions is not > possible. Please see also the mail I sent on Friday: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2024-April/005454.html > > Best regards, > Fergal > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 1:44 PM Dmitry Kohmanyuk via members-discuss < > members-discuss at ripe.net> wrote: > >> On 22 Apr 2024, at 13:03, Sebastien Brossier <sebastien at brossier.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > On 20/04/2024 11:44, Claudius Zingerli wrote: >> >> I think IPv6 allocations larger than /29 aren't very common. Your >> proposal again puts too much load on smaller LIRs. >> > I generated this alternate simulation to address the concerns of those >> with IPv6 /29 and a very small amount of IPv4, but it is indeed worse for >> everyone else. Billing IPv6 in a fair way is not easy when 90% of LIRs are >> in the same category. >> > >> > Honestly, I prefer my initial proposal. Or James A.T. Rice's proposal >> if we're not going to charge for IPv6 at the moment. >> >> Hi Sebastien, >> >> >> I am examining formulas which involve a fixed price, as well as charges >> for both IPv4 and IPv6, and wondering if there is anyone who can help >> calculate the impact of merging LIRs or moving addresses on these >> (obviously not exactly.) >> >> Additionally, I have a question about whether membership is able to >> propose any version to these charges for voting, subject to a signature >> threshold, or if it is solely the board's responsibility. >> >> -- dk@ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripencc-management%40ripe.net >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20240423/556f6e99/attachment-0001.html>
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