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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Sun Oct 6 10:12:18 CEST 2019
Hi, On Sun, Oct 06, 2019 at 04:52:09AM +0200, Enno Rey wrote: > > is even more frightening.... it forces the Internet in the hands of a couple of cloud providers and is a real ossification of the Internet > > Can you elaborate on the line of argumentation here? thanks in advance > > & everybody have a great Sunday Well, the way the Internet has evolved in the past few years is (for "95+% of everything", so those few of you that do "ssh $home" are all on this list, but not relevant in the grand scheme) - all traffic is https - browser vendors are trying to push even DNS on https - all traffic is between "users" and "content providers" - "end-to-end" traffic is relayed via cloud services, because there is no end-to-end anymore (IPv6 routers ship with firewalls on-by-default, IPv4 routers with NAT - which can be circumvented, but every new application would have to deal with it) - due to DoS etc., most important content is hosted by a small handful of very large CDNs and/or anti-ddos providers which, taken all together, means "the Internet works nicely and smoothly for 99% of the users, but rolling out anything *new* is near to impossible unless you happen to be a browser vendor or major content network" ossified... (And the fact that it *does* work nicely and smoothly for most users means it's fairly hard to convince anyone that this evolution might not be what "we" - for some definition of "we" - really want) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ipv6-wg/attachments/20191006/0c582ab0/attachment.sig>
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