[ipv6-wg] Few questions about IPv6

On 13 Nov 2007, at 13:13, Sascha Lenz wrote:

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>>> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:58:52PM +0100, Marcin Gondek wrote:
>>> | 1.       Do I have to be a LIR to request /32 subnet from RIPE,  
>>> can be it
>>> | done by another LIR which will request subnet for me (as its  
>>> customer)?
>>> You have to be an LIR to request an IPv6 allocation from RIPE NCC.
>> The more interesting question is if I am a LIR, can I ask other LIR  
>> to
>> get /32 allocation for me? :)
>
> according to the current policy, no.
> That doesn't even work for IPv4.
>
> Only LIRs get Allocations ... End-Users get Assignments.
> And for now that's a good idea IMHO.

I don't think the policy is that clear-cut.

    5.3. LIR-to-ISP allocation

    There is no specific policy for an organisation (LIR) to allocate
    address space to subordinate ISPs. Each LIR organisation may develop
    its own policy for subordinate ISPs to encourage optimum utilisation
    of the total address block allocated to the LIR. However, all /48
    assignments to End Sites are required to be registered either by
    the LIR or its subordinate ISPs in such a way that the RIR/NIR can
    properly evaluate the HD-Ratio when a subsequent allocation becomes
    necessary.

    http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-412.html#lir_to_isp

This text seems to state that an LIR can decide how much is  
appropriate to sub-allocate to a downstream ISP. As such, an LIR with  
more than a /32 could decide to sub-allocate a /32 if they though that  
doing so would "encourage optimum utilisation of the total address  
block allocated to the LIR".

Ultimately, it's the LIR's problem if they are convinced to sub- 
allocate a /32 and the downstream ISP makes very light use of the  
space. A prudent LIR would make sure the contract with their  
downstream was sufficiently rigourous in this area.

Regards,

Leo Vegoda