[db-wg] Disallowing MD5 passwords in e-mail updates, was MD5 Hashes in the database
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Daniel Stolpe
stolpe at resilans.se
Tue Nov 8 13:22:50 CET 2011
I agree. And maybe someone should set up john the ripper to crack some passwords and contact the holders of the weakest ones. On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, David Freedman wrote: > I don't mind it continuing to be used over encrypted channels, > as long as the hashes are not available to the general public (as per your > previous mail) > > I would support a warning phase > > Dave. > > > > On 08/11/2011 11:56, "Shane Kerr" <shane at time-travellers.org> wrote: > >> David, >> >> On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 09:38 +0000, David Freedman wrote: >>> I'd like to see auth: MD5-PW deprecated , even though it seems to be >>> widely used (for various reasons) >>> according to the report by DB presented to us. >> >> I propose that we deprecate passwords over unencrypted channels. AFAIK >> this just means e-mail today, although the web API stuff may also >> provide an non-TLS option (I don't know). >> >> Unlike hiding MD5, this is a major change for users, and would need to >> be done with the same caution and preparation as similar large changes >> in the past. We could have a warning phase, where anyone using a >> password in email would get a scary warning in the reply telling them to >> use a more secure scheme (PGP, X.509, webupdates, or database web API). >> The RIPE NCC could identify heavy users and help them convert their >> tools. And eventually we could flip the switch and turn off plain text >> passwords. >> >> -- >> Shane >> >> > > > Daniel _________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel Stolpe Tel: 08 - 688 11 81 stolpe at resilans.se Resilans AB Fax: 08 - 55 00 21 63 http://www.resilans.se/ Box 13 054 556741-1193 103 02 Stockholm
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