[cooperation-wg] RE: EU Directives on Data Retention etc

This WG seems to be completely silent.
Is there any cooperation going on?

I intend to be at RIPE62 in Amsterdam. 
I would like to have on the agenda:
- a review of RIPE's cooperation with the EU (including RIPE NCC),  with a
discussion of how RIPE will contribute to any forthcoming directives
relating to the Internet.
- a list of all other 'cooperation' activities that have taken place since
RIPE61.
- a summary of current activities.
Please.

Regards
Steve Nash


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrik Fältström [mailto:patrik at frobbit.se] 
Sent: 22 December 2010 16:58
To: Nash, Steve
Cc: cooperationwg-chairs at ripe.net
Subject: Re: EU Directives on Data Retention etc

On 22 dec 2010, at 17.49, Nash, Steve wrote:

> EU Directive 2006/24/EC on Data Retention was a very poor document .
> I hear that the EU is working on such things again.

Yes, and no. There is a review going on, and a meeting was held in late
November in Brussels.

Rumours say that COM will not open up the directive, but instead clarify
what is intended. Which to me is another reason for the coop wg to bring
this up.

> Since the reasons for such Directives include the detection or Abuse I
made an enquiry of the Abuse WG, but Brian Nisbet has pointed me in the
direction of the Cooperation WG.
> I note that the EU did not feature on the agenda at Ripe61, and I needed
to attend the parallel Routing WG session.
> Do you think that providing advice to the EU on matters of technical
feasibility and effectiveness falls within the scope of this WG?

I think it would be a good idea to discuss this at the next wg meeting,
possibly under a meta-discussion on "who has the responsibility to do what".
Specifically looking at what an ISP can do, what they do not want to do etc.

Any other takers, ideas?

   Patrik