[anti-abuse-wg] Mandate from the RIPE community

Hi everbody,

what do you say to the answer below I got from RIPE?

Doesn't RIPE already have a mandate for keeping the
whois database uptodate with all the vital public data
like contact email address for abuse reporting etc?

Normally its just a simple database scan to find the records
with such missing vital data, ie. one can even automate this job
to periodically request from the owners the missing data.

BTW, is the RIPE community somehow organized? Any speaker/contact person etc.?

U.Mutlu
mutluit.com


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: NCC#2012010449 Missing contact data for Abuse Reporting for IP 84.240.196.128 and 84.240.197.0
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:38:31 +0100
From: RIPE NCC <ncc at ripe.net>
Reply-To: RIPE NCC <ncc at ripe.net>
To: U.Mutlu <security at mutluit.com>

Dear Mr. Mutlu,

Thank you for your email.
Indeed there is no email contact but there are some phone contact details that you can find on our DB query page.

There may be options we could pursue to check the validity of the contact
data in the objects in the RIPE Database. Where we have a direct
relationship with the owners of these objects we could request that they
update this information. But we do not have a mandate from the RIPE
community to allocate any resources to this activity. If you feel this
should have a higher priority then you may raise the issue on the Database
Working Group or Anti Abuse Working Group or Address Policy Working Group
mailing lists. You can find information about the mailing lists here

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/groups/wg

These are open working groups and views are welcomed from anyone who
wishes to discuss relevant issues.


Best regards,

Natasa Mojsilovic
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RIPE NCC

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:56:43 +0100, U.Mutlu wrote:
> I want to point you to some missing data in the RIPE DB:
>
> Your webpage below says about RIPE queries: 'Please do not use the email address in the “changed” line.'
> ( https://www.ripe.net/data-tools/db/faq/faq-hacking-spamming/what-can-i-do-about-spam-hacking )
>
> But the following IP's have no other email contact specified
> except those marked as "changed" and "upd-to" (yes I used the "-B" switch):
>    84.240.196.128
>    84.240.197.0
>
> And also the Abuse Finder page at https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html
> doesn't find any abuse contact for these IPs.
>
> Regards,
>
> U.Mutlu
> SysAdm mutluit.com