[anti-abuse-wg] 2011-06 Discussion Period extended until 7 May 2012 (Abuse Contact Management in the RIPE NCC Database)
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Leo Vegoda
leo.vegoda at icann.org
Tue Apr 17 16:59:43 CEST 2012
Hi Brian, all, Brian Nisbet wrote: > Leo Vegoda wrote, On 17/04/2012 00:22: > > Hi Denis, > > > > On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:32 pm, Denis Walker wrote: > > > >> I am not aware of any formal big picture, but I follow the mailing list > >> as closely as I am sure you and many others do. As you will know many of > >> these issues invoke much discussion on the list. > > > > I think we only get one opportunity to do this right. Doing it without a strategy that's been agreed by the whole community seems quite scary. > > While I think that Frank has given a good outline, what is "this" to > your mind? > > Is it abuse contact management, is it data verification? Part of the > problem that we hit with the ACM-TF is that data verification is a very > big thing and people have a lot of reactions to it. This lead to a > decision to try to get the abuse-c nailed down and integrated, before, > should the community or TF decide, looking at data verification, and > indeed the scope of that. I think my concerns are that if we have a large problem and solve it in pieces, because the work is done in pieces they might not tessellate well and leave us with something that is a bit broken. In particular, I am concerned that if a proposal for a new abuse-c object is approved but no contact data management policy is approved we just have a new layer of stale data. In general, I think more stale data is worse than less stale data. On the other hand, I can see that discussing multiple policy proposals simultaneously is difficult. I think my concerns would be allayed if the resulting policies (once approved) were implemented as part of a single, coherent programme of work and not as individual projects. That way, I think we could be fairly sure all the pieces fit well together. Regards, Leo
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