[address-policy-wg] RIPE != RIPE NCC
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Sascha Luck [ml]
apwg at c4inet.net
Wed Jun 10 14:17:37 CEST 2015
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:56:54PM +0100, Jim Reid wrote: >RIPE NCC is a Dutch non-profit organisation funded by members >who pay annual fees. In return for those fees, they get various >services from the RIPE NCC. Members also elect the board and >vote on its activity plan and charging scheme at the AGM. > >RIPE is an open community of people and organisations who are >interested in IP-based networking (and related matters), mostly >in Europe and the Middle East. It does not have a legal >identity. RIPE works by consensus. It does not vote. It does not >have any formal membership structure and therefore does not have >members in the same way that RIPE NCC has members. These things >are deliberate. What is missing here is that the RIPE NCC, and its members, are bound by the policies that RIPE comes up with. In reality, this means that < 10 people on a mailing list (some of whom may or may not be sockpuppets) decide how ~12,000 members have to deal with the RIPE NCC. >RIPE develops various policies which RIPE NCC then implement. If >the RIPE NCC membership feel that RIPE policies are not in the >best interests of the RIPE NCC (membership), they can use the >RIPE NCC's bye-laws to do something about that: replace board >members, call a GM, reject the activity plan or fee structure, >pass resolutions, etc, etc. What would the point be of replacing a Board (which has so far done a good job) with one that is just as bound by RIPE policy as the last one? The only real options open to a membership unhappy with RIPE policy are to elect a Board that promises not to be bound by RIPE policy or to de-fund the NCC. I don't think either option appeals much. rgds, Sascha Luck
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