[address-policy-wg] Guidance Requested: Changing the Status of PI Address Space

Hi Sylvain,

If the goal is to resell space, it will happen anyway.
There are companies that start with PI space and become an LIR later.

The policy for PI space stated that if you could justify 1 IP address, you would get a single /24. Anyone can justify a single IP address for their infrastructure. 

This change will allow PI space holders that are a LIR themselves to use the remaining space that might not be allowed under the PI assignment policy ( like sub-assignment to third-parties / customers )

Voting against this will not make these policy voilations go away ... And PI space will not go back to the free pool... Conservation is not a goal anymore by itself, as our RIR has depleted its free pool. 

Fair distribution isn't a task anymore, the primairy task keeping the registry correct. 

Will people sell space ( even if the policy won't allow it ?) YES !!
I have seen incidents of people buying PI space and not changing the holder, side letters in place etc. 
If we have clear policies and procedures that would allow these situations to at least reflect in the registry, the registry will have a much better change of being accurate. 

This proposed change will remove limitations that were valid in a pre-depletion era .. However, times have changed. 

Regards,
Erik Bais


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Op 11 aug. 2013 om 12:03 heeft Sylvain Vallerot <sylvain.vallerot at opdop.net> het volgende geschreven:

> 
> Hi, sorry for my late contribution (and my poor english)
> 
> On 20/06/2013 09:49, andrea wrote:
>> A. Allow LIRs to change the status of their PI assignments to PA allocations
>> (if equal or larger than the minimum allocation size)
> 
> I do not support this since blindly allowing LIRs to change PI to PA would
> lead to very permissive reuse of space that was assigned in an exception mode
> to the aggregation principle for very specific reasons.
> 
> So I consider if the purpose of this assignment is no valid anymore then it should
> be returned to free pool in the general case, not reused for whatever else.
> 
> This is enforced by the ability for LIRs to transfer (I mean, to sell) PA space.
> Obviously converting PI to PA and sell it would be the right choice for anybody
> having unused PI subnets today.
> 
> I know convervation looks like an old fashioned and void policy for many LIRs
> today, however free IPv4 still is a rare public ressource needed by many to
> survive. So available IPs should be returned to RIR.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sylvain
> fr.opdop
>