[address-policy-wg] Any-cast or uni-cast solutions
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Tom Vest
tvest at eyeconomics.com
Fri May 25 19:55:35 CEST 2012
On May 23, 2012, at 4:32 AM, Tore Anderson wrote: > * Lu Heng > >> Almost every hosting company here in EU has customer from outside of >> region, they rent server from EU company for whatever reasons(for >> making their EU website for example), but they are outside of region. >> >> If "end customer from outside of region can not assign IP addresses", >> then all EU hosting company can not sell any hosting package to a >> person in US for example, but that is not the case. > > They can, if the hosted service is in the RIPE service region. > > For example: You (assuming you're located in China) can come to me and > purchase a virtual machine hosted in my data center located in Norway. > It will be numbered using RIPE region address space. No problems. I > could also announce this address space to peers on a Chinese internet > exchange and backhaul the traffic to Norway myself, if I wanted to. > Still no problems there. > > However, if I build a data center in China I cannot use RIPE region > address space to number it. (Even if the customers hosted in that were > all incorporated in the RIPE region.) If this had been permitted, I > doubt there would still be available IPv4 address space in the RIPE > region at this point, as organisations in the APNIC region in need of > IPv4 address space could just have set up LIRs in the RIPE region and > allocate away. Apologies in advance for being pedantic, but unless some non-Chinese operator can attest that they have actually done one of those things -- i.e., use non-CNNIC(any) assigned IP resources to interconnect at a China-based IXP, and/or to provide (or even consume) data center services within China, may I suggest that we choose a different country for our hypothetical examples? To my knowledge, none of those things has actually been permissible, at least for the last 10-12 years. Would love to hear that things have now changed, if they have in fact changed -- but unless/until that can be established it would probably be best not to leave false breadcrumb trails that might easily mislead future address-policy-wg readers. Just a thought, TV (who has walked down many such false trails in the past)
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