[address-policy-wg] Proposal 2011-02 moving to Last Call
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Turchanyi Geza
turchanyi.geza at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 09:50:00 CEST 2011
Hi Mike, On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se>wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Michel Py wrote: > > I hate to sound brutal, but why should I believe that you will find the >> Holy Grail that everyone else has been searching for over the last 15 years? >> I heard it all, I wrote part of it. There is NO solution to make renumbering >> easy and there is NO solution nearly as good as PI for multihoming. >> > > I am well aware of this. > > > Stop the vaporware. What you want does not exist. Unlike the IETF, ARIN >> > > I never said it did. > > > I'm tired of hearing "we need to". I have been hearing this for 15 years, >> enough of this. Oh, BTW, I tried too. You don't have anything; when you do, >> deliver it and come back to us. >> > > We still need to in the long term. IPv6 PI, ie keeping state for all > end-users in all DFZ routers on the Internet, does not scale with billions > of routes. > > So yes, there is no solution right now, that doesn't mean IPv6 PI is any > kind of long term solution. Yes, fully agree here. > We know it's bad, we still use it because there is no better way right now. > That doesn't mean we should give up. > > It's again tragedy of the commons. For the individual user, PI is always > the easiest way out. For humanity/Internet as a whole in the long term, not > so much. > > But let's get IPv6 implemented, a few hundred thousand more routes doesn't > really matter, as long as they don't turn into many millions. > > I realy would like to know what makes you so optimistic? While you think so that a few hundred thousands more routes doesn!t really matter? Which kind of routers/line cards could support this at wire speed? Any summary of convergence issues in large scale network? Am I missed some new technology that is already implemented allmost everywhere? > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike at swm.pp.se > > I would be glad to receive additional information here, if this exists, please share it! Many thanks, Géza -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20110930/348851e9/attachment.html>
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