[address-policy-wg] layer 10+ issues with 2008-08
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Sascha Luck
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Mon May 9 21:48:04 CEST 2011
On Mon, May 09, 2011 at 12:52:15PM +0200, Erik Bais wrote: >> I am not worried about the RPKI being used as a vector for >> takedown requests by law enforcement or others. I am >> worried about more informal situations. What does the NCC >> do when the cops knock on the door and say "We don't have >> a court order and *really* want you to revoke this cert. >> Please co-operate."? And although I mentioned law >> enforcement, there may well be others who would wish to >> push those boundaries. > Kind requests like these get waived at the reception, even > before someone would look at it. I guarantee you they won't if someone shows up with a "National Security Letter" or whatever the EU equivalent may be that orders you to comply *and keep your mouth shut about it*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Merrill You may also want to watch his presentation at 27C3... > I'm sure someone from RIPE NCC could provide a summary of their > policy in requests like that. If they can, see above. Folks, this proposal fundamentally changes the very nature of the internet as a loose association of independent networks without any central or hierarchical authority other than that of the network owners over *their* network. I think it is only right to perform a detailed and very careful technical *and political* risk assessment of all and any "unintended" consequences of such a change. rgds, Sascha Luck
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