[address-policy-wg] RIPE DB: disclosure of commertial information

Max Tulyev wrote:
> В сообщении от четвер 12 травень 2005 17:00 Sebastian Abt написал(a):
> 
>>Welcome to free market economy.
> 
> 
> ;-)))))
> 
> 
>>>addressing database (with contact person, especially technical) there
>>>is easy to do this.

In most countries technical contacts don't decide which ISP to
buy connectivity from...

(Technical people look for the best, while "management" looks
for the price...
Technical people have to proof why solution A is better that B
and sometimes are ignored anyway)

>>
>>If your clients are satisfied they won't change their provider.  If not
>>they will change anyway, regardles of being listed in RIPE DB or not.
>>So what's the problem at all?
> 
Besides, there are other ways to find the info you want:
- dig (nslookup) www.bibgcompany.su -> IP address
   whois IP address -> you know which ISP's customer the company is
- dig (nslookup -type=SOA) bibgcompany.su (SOA) -> E-Mail address
   of responisble for dns
- send mail to info at bigcompany.su ...
- Meybe use a phone book and call in?
.....
> 
> If my satisfied client will receive a tons of offers from other peoples just 
> because of I show him in open database - it is really good???

In western (european?) countries there are trade laws which don't allow
address harvesting (especially whois entries and other public data),
placing unwanted offers, etc.
You always can try to sell your offers however and it may be difficult
to proof that others misued whaterver data (e.g. whois records)


> 
> Is it really good for me to look up the database and send that offers to 
> others?
> 

I can't see any advantage not place the customers in the whois DB,
since there are other ways to find contact to them.
Maybe the customers may not wan't to published there for whaterver
reasons this might be.

Guido