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Minutes of the Routing Working Group held at RIPE 46, Amsterdam,
Tuesday, 2nd & Wednesday, 3rd September 2003
Chair: Joao Damas
Scribe: James Aldridge, RIPE NCC
Minutes from R45: Circulated a few days ago;
no comments -> approved!
Actions from R45: None
* RPSLng Update
- New draft (draft-blunk-rpslng-01.txt); includes input from previous
discussions. Last Call went out last week. Next stage, if
approved, is to ask IESG to move this document to "Proposed
* Bidirectional Forwarding Detector
(Dave Ward, Cisco)
BFD: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection
Dave Katz, Juniper; Dave Ward, Cisco
"Forwarding Plane Failover Detection"
rtg-bfd _at_ ietf _dot_ org
"What's vendor response like?" Very good; under pressure to get this
implemented quickly. Cisco, Juniper + some switch vendors working on
"If running over unencrypted tunnels, does discriminator give enough
info to demux and authenticate packet?" No; can be spoofed!.
* Geographical aggregation for multihoming in IPv6
(Iljitsch van Beijnum)
(update since RIPE-44 & Vienna IETF)
- proposed interim solution for IPv6 multihoming
- provider internal
"Address allocations per ISP?" No; allocated globally.
* RIS Update
(Matthew Williams, RIPE NCC)
"myASn: exact match only or more specific too?" More specific too
(with exception capabilities in beta version).
"myASn: just 'my' ASn or 'somebody else's' ASn too?" Any AS.
* Verification of Zebra as a BGP Measurement Instrument
(Hong Wei Kong; presented by Lance Tatman, Agilent Labs)
Hong Wei Kong
"When will 'recording tool' be ready?" At least 6 months until
"Will 'recording tool' allow playback?" (feature request)
"What outstanding Zebra bugs?" Zebra should separate receiving and
dumping threads; general structural problem within Zebra.
Feedback required on demand for a route recorder.
* Comparative analysis of BGP update metrics
(Alex Tudor, Agilent Labs)
Overview of math on OHP:
- Quantile-quantile plots
No questions following presentation
* The Netlantis Project
(Pascal Gloor, Philippe Bourcier)
"real-time" only, no historical data
* Any Other Business
Question to the Routing WG from MCI regarding routing setups. In
particular, as a global ISP using data from the RIPE database and
- Inconsistant info in different registries
- Can't determine which is correct
- What to tell customers - where to store data
- US data in European database?
- Auto-generated router setups
- What is the position of RIPE / other areas
Shane Kerr, RIPE NCC: RIPE Routing Registry has no geographical
restrictions but provides authentication for local assignments only.
RIPE NCC can't require registration; only provides the tool.
Suggest RIPE document on how to use routing registry.
Routing Registry Consistency Checking (RRCC) - live bgp data (from RIS
project) compared against routing registry - 40% of RR objects not
announced. Tools to show those route objects so users can delete
Is anyone using auto-generated config from the routing registry
without manual checking? Input requested from wg.