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Meeting Report

The RIPE 47 Meeting was held from 26 - 30 January 2004 at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. There were a total of 253 attendees comprised of the RIPE NCC membership, the RIPE community and government representatives. Attendees also included representatives from APNIC, ARIN, AfriNIC, LACNIC, ICANN and IANA.


Highlights of RIPE 47 included the open discussion on the services of the RIPE NCC during the RIPE NCC Services Working Group; updates on the World Summit on the Information Society from Mirjam Khne, ISOC, and Axel Pawlik, Managing Director, RIPE NCC; an AfriNIC update; the proposal by the RIPE community to make RIPE 152 ( 'Charging by Local Internet Registries') a historical document.

As announced by Rob Blokzijl, RIPE Chair, two RIPE Meetings will be held in 2005. Based on the feedback from the community, this schedule will continue in 2006. The RIPE NCC will offer additional support to RIPE Working Groups to facilitate discussion and progress between RIPE Meetings.

Robin Tasker (CCLRC) gave a presentation on the European Commission-sponsored DataTAG project.

The European Operators Forum (EOF) featured an NSP Security BoF, a presentation on which types of SMTP flows should be blocked to prevent spam, a case study on the migration of AOL's backbone network from OSPF to IS-IS and discussion on the use of XML in network configuration.

The RIPE NCC, Afilias, Cisco, NIKHEF, NOKIA, Riverhead and SURFnet are thanked for the support they provided to the meeting. Global Voice Networks are thanked for the provision of excellent Internet connectivity.



  • It was proposed that RIPE 152 ('Charging by Local Internet Registries') should be made a historical document and that the RIPE NCC should make a clear statement on that it does not charge for IP addresses.
  • Hans Petter Holen, Chair, will form a task force to write a policy development process proposal.
  • Consensus is needed on the mailing list on the AfriNIC proposal regarding /22 minimum allocation size.
  • Hans Petter Holen, Chair, will start a discussion on the mailing list on changing the 80% rule for IPv4 allocations.


  • The issue of CRISP versus joint Whois was discussed.
  • The proposal to introduce new attribute "abuse-c" in the inet(6)num objects was discussed.
  • A detailed proposal about "abuse-c" will be sent to Database Working Group mailing list.

Test Traffic Measurement (TTM)

  • It was noted that as of 1/1/2004 changes were made to the TTM service contract: Fees were lowered (from 3000 EUR per year to 1000 EUR per year) and all data has been made public as specified in RIPE 300 ('Test Traffic Measurement Service Data Disclosure Policy').
  • Two presentations made use of TTM delay data: a presentation on delay tomography used traceroute data from the TTM project; a presentation on the reordering of IP packets used delay data.


  • A proposal has been sent to the Database Working Group mailing list regarding the inclusion of an abuse-c attribute/object in the RIPE Database to help solve the problem of misdirected/multiple spam complaints.
  • It was noted that the European Commission Directive is now widely implemented and that in the United States CAN-SPAM is the first federal legislation.


  • The anycast policy discussion was sent to the Address Policy Working Group.
  • There was discussion on how 6 to 4 is being used to spoof IPv4 origin addresses to make Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attacks anonymous.
  • There was a presentation on the security implications of IPv6 on IPv4 networks.


  • An editorial group will be set up to revise the exchange point operator wish list for switches.
  • Operator-member charters for exchange points were discussed.
  • DE-CIX presented their experience migrating to new hardware and adding new premises.


  • The DNR Forum and the DNS Working Group were combined under the DNS Working Group heading.
  • It was noted that the ENUM RFC 2916bis has been approved by the IETF Working Group and is in the queue of the RFC editor.
  • It was noted that Internationalized Domain Names (IDN) are being deployed in more new regions.


  • There was a presentation on RISwhois, a tool that allows IP address to origin ASN mapping.
  • Case studies about convergence of IGP protocols were presented and discussed.


  • Bijal Sanghani, FLAG Telecom, was appointed as the co-chair of the Working Group.
  • The RIPE NCC will explore the possibility of providing a service giving test statistics on the routability of new blocks.
  • The RIPE NCC will give a status update on the Activity Plan 2004 and request input for the Activity Plan 2005 during the RIPE NCC Services Working Group at RIPE 48.


The RIPE NCC staff presented the RIPE NCC IP Request Tutorial. It explained address space assignment and allocation procedures in the RIPE NCC region.


During RIPE 47, the RIPE NCC held trials in collecting feedback from participants watching the webcast. The mediums used for this were IRC and Jabber.


The RIPE NCC Hostmaster Consultation Centre was open at RIPE 47, allowing RIPE NCC Members to discuss issues relating to their business directly with RIPE NCC Hostmasters.


The RIPE NCC's "Meet & Greet" was available for first-time RIPE Meeting attendees at RIPE 47. "Meet & Greet" introduces newcomers to the meetings, to key attendees from the RIPE community and to social events throughout the week.


RIPE 48 will be held in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, from 3 - 7 May 2004.