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Meeting Report

The RIPE 48 Meeting was held from 3 - 7 May 2004 at the Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. There were a total of 267 attendees comprised of the RIPE NCC membership, the RIPE community and government representatives. Attendees also included representatives from APNIC, ARIN, AfriNIC, LACNIC and ICANN.


Highlights of RIPE 48 included an update on the Number Resource Organization from Axel Pawlik, Managing Director, RIPE NCC; an open discussion on the proposed Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between the Number Resource Organization and ICANN; the community consensus to create an ENUM Working Group.

J. Scott Marcus, Transatlantic Fellow, The German Marshall Fund of the United States, gave a presentation on the deployment challenges involved with evolving the core of the Internet.

The European Operators Forum (EOF) featured presentations on lawful interception of IP traffic, managing a DoS attack, stable BGP routing, strategies for IP traffic engineering, analysing the Internet Routing Registries, IP Address Space and AS Number hijacking and applications of Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD).

The RIPE NCC, FLAG Telecom, Amsterdam Internet Exchange and Interoute are thanked for the support they provided to the meeting. Global Voice Networks are thanked for the provision of the meeting Internet connectivity.



  • It was agreed that the issue of worldwide "shopping" for address space needs to be carefully considered before adopting different IPv4 additional allocation procedures (i.e. HD Ratio) in each region.
  • There were calls for the clarification and review of the initial allocation criteria for IPv6 allocations. The RIPE NCC will propose a rewrite of the IPv6 policy after the issue has been discussed in more detail on the mailing list.


  • It was agreed that the 'country:' attribute should be either removed or be optional.
  • It was decided that the default behaviour of the RIPE Database will be changed to return the Incident Response Team (IRT) object if available, in order to make it easier for users to find relevant security contact information.


  • Three presentations were given by Test Box users that offered useful tutorial information for all Test Box owners.
  • The Working Group Chair encouraged the RIPE NCC to investigate moving measurements into the O/S kernel and/or to hardware.
  • It was noted that the RIPE NCC has lowered the annual TTM service fee to 1000 euro/year for the first box, 500 euro/year for the second to ninth boxes and that a large company has offered to sponsor hardware for non-profit, research institutes.


  • The community was asked to look at the Anti-Spam Working Group charter and to suggest how it should be changed.
  • Fearghas McKay reported on the sender-pays stream and specifically on the 'camram' proposal which uses a well-documented system for generating cryptographic signatures ('hashcash').
  • There was a proposal to establish a top level domain 'mail.' to be used as a type of DNS white-listing service.


  • It was agreed that the Working Group Chair will seek consensus from the Working Group on whether the Minimum Technical IPv6 Peering Requirements (MIPP) document should become a RIPE document.
  • The community was asked to provide feedback on larger than default IPv6 allocations.
  • Pim van Pelt asked for members of the community who would like to run public 6to4 relays.


  • Kurtis Lindqvist presented his view from the IXP Customer View workshop.
  • Bijal Sanghani gave a presentation on the expectation an ISP has for an IXP.
  • European IXPs gave an update about the latest developments, including a presentation on the shared experience of engineers when they migrated their customers from one switch to another.


  • It was agreed that the RIPE NCC will review the zone checks done by the reverse delegation robot.
  • DNS MODA was proposed by Jim Reid as a not-for-profit body to work on DNS protocol issues.
  • It was noted that the expansion of IPv6 makes the streamlining of IPv6 direct and reverse DNS even more necessary.


  • It was agreed that the RIPE NCC should publish an IRR Toolset maintenance schedule.
  • There was a presentation on some of the technical issues of high-speed global roaming (flying an 802.11b wireless hot-spot at around 900 km/hr at altitudes around 10km).
  • There was a presentation on BGPlay, a tool that visualises Internet routing activity.


  • The RIPE NCC was asked to make a more detailed presentation on PGP encryption.
  • It was agreed that the RIPE NCC should start implementing the key-signing proposal.


  • There was a presentation on security aware resolvers and discussion on the requirements for them.
  • There was discussion on 'server-side' protocol bits and the feeling that they are solid and ready for deployment; it was noted that validator/application communication and key-management issues need work.


The RIPE NCC Training Team presented the RIPE NCC IP Request Tutorial. It explained address space assignment and allocation procedures in the RIPE NCC region.


The RIPE NCC Hostmaster Consultation Centre was open at RIPE 48, allowing RIPE NCC Members to discuss issues relating to their business directly with RIPE NCC Hostmasters.


The RIPE NCC's "Meet & Greet" was available for first-time RIPE Meeting attendees at RIPE 48. "Meet & Greet" introduces newcomers to the meetings, to key attendees from the RIPE community and to social events throughout the week. More information can be obtained by contacting: <[email protected]>.