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Charging Scheme Task Force Minutes (13 May 2025)

13 May 2025

Attendees: Sebastian Brossier, Victor Bolaños Guerra, Raymond Jetten, Ulf Kieber, Carlos Friaças, Pavel Odintsov, Piotr Strzyżewski, Clara Wade

Apologies: Alex de Joode, Alexandru Doszlop, Ivaylo Josifov, Alptekin Sünnetci, Cynthia Revström

Chairs: Peter Hessler, Ondřej Filip

RIPE NCC staff: Fergal Cunningham, Simon-Jan Haytink, Athina Fragkouli, Karla Liddle-White,

1. Welcome

Charging Scheme Task Force Co-Chair, Peter Hessler opened the meeting, which was held in person and online, and checked that everyone online could hear.

2. Approval of Minutes

Senior Communications Officer, Karla Liddle-White, asked about the draft minutes from the last two meetings and whether there were any amendments. There were none, and both sets were approved for publication.

3. Feedback on Draft Report from Members

Charging Scheme Task Force Co-Chair, Peter Hessler, asked if anyone had received feedback on the draft report.

There had been concerns raised regarding legacy resources. While there was general satisfaction with how the issue was being handled, it was highlighted that different NRENs operate in varying ways, and this has led to apprehension for some. The clarity and care taken in addressing these concerns were appreciated.

Observations from community channels suggested that legacy resource holders were being encouraged to become members in the report. One comment mentioned a plan to move to APNIC, indicating that some legacy holders may feel concerned.

Feedback on implementation indicated that there may be a general misunderstanding with people expecting a proposed charging scheme, rather than recognising the current work was to draft principles the RIPE NCC could use to draft a charging scheme.

It was mentioned that previous meeting minutes were more detailed than necessary and the lack of some background context could have led to misunderstandings. However, the published draft report had helped to clarify any misunderstandings arising from those minutes.

4. Preparation for CSTF presentation at GM

Head of membership Engagement, Fergal Cunningham, shared the draft presentation for the General Meeting. It now included data and minor revisions.

It was confirmed that there would be sufficient time allocated during the General Meeting (GM) for both the presentation and a Q&A session. The group discussed topics and talking points that might come up at the GM, such as transfer fees and legacy holders. It was clarified that the current work would not impact the charging scheme presented at the May 2025 GM but was focused on future developments.

The group also discussed the next steps that could be communicated at the GM. There was general support for the current direction and a proposed timeline was outlined:

  • Input collection through to the end of the month
  • A final draft of the report to be prepared for the board following input
  • RIPE NCC to draft a charging scheme based on these principles for the October 2025 GM for members to provide feedback
  • A more developed version would then be ready for the Spring GM 2026.

5. AOB

Appreciation was expressed for the significant effort and collaborative spirit shown throughout the process. It was acknowledged that the task had been challenging, and there was general anticipation about how members would respond at the General Meeting.

It was noted that full consensus was unlikely, and that it was important to manage expectations around member satisfaction with the proposed principles.

Peter closed the meeting and thanked everyone for attending online and in person.