Charging Scheme Task Force 2025 Meeting Draft Minutes (7 April 2025)

7 April 2025

Attendees: Sebastian Brossier, Carlos Friaças, Raymond Jetten, Ulf Kieber, Pavel Odintsov, Clara Wade

Apologies: Victor Bolaños Guerra, Alexandru Doszlop, Alex de Joode, Ivaylo Josifov, Cynthia Revström, Piotr Strzyżewski, Alptekin Sünnetci

Chairs: Ondřej Filip, Peter Hessler

RIPE NCC staff: Kjerstin Burdiek, Daniella Coutinho, Fergal Cunningham, Athina Fragkouli, Simon-Jan Haytink

1. Welcome

Charging Scheme Task Force Co-Chair, Ondřej Filip, began the meeting by welcoming the group, noting the agenda items and asking if any changes were needed. There were none.

2. Updated Draft Report Review

Head of Membership Engagement, Fergal Cunningham, shared the updated report and went over the changes. He had improved the structure and the appendix and made some small wording adjustments in the first two sections. The section on charging per member category vs. LIR account had been significantly changed. He advised that the Task Force review it.

The group discussed text Chief Legal Officer, Athina Fragkouli, had added to the draft report concerning non-contractual holders of legacy resources. They also looked at parts of the report which were now redundant due to new text and decided to delete certain paragraphs and principles.

There was discussion on contractual obligations and legacy resource holders. They discussed how to handle legacy resource holders in terms of contractual obligations, operational feasibility, and potential solutions like temporary memberships. There was also a discussion on access to maintainer objects and whether updates could be fee based. Chief Financial Officer, Simon-Jan Haytink, noted that if this were part of a charging scheme, the RIPE NCC would need to research the VAT implications.

Fergal then shared an updated section about the process for the charging scheme. He noted that RIPE NCC Managing Director and CEO, Hans Petter Holen, had suggested following the five-year strategy cycle for the process, and the Task Force agreed.

The group discussed the practicality and fairness of applying charges in transfer scenarios. They asked for clarification on a principle on charges for transferring and receiving parties in policy transfers and if this were practical. Concerns were raised about enforceability and edge cases like bankruptcies. It was agreed that some principles related to transfers could be removed, as existing ones already covered the intent here.

It was requested that the graphs, tables and data be displayed in the report for ease of reading and to direct people to the spreadsheet for more information.

3. Engaging on Draft Report with Members

There was discussion on responses to members who had been in contact asking questions. The TF had responded and also confirmed that the report answered many of the questions they had been asked.

Fergal said he would share the revised draft by the end of the week. They could publish early the following week and before the Easter weekend and announce it to the membership.

4. AOB (Chair)

There was no other business.