[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model
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Damian Wójcik
d.wojcik at net-bis.eu
Wed Sep 14 12:44:04 CEST 2016
??????????????? W dniu 2016-09-14 o 12:38, Tim Armstrong pisze: > > Fearghas explicitly identified: > >> How does an IX that operates at Layer 2 drive the price of IPv4 up ? > > While I've never seen a Layer2 only IX (presumably just an unmanaged > switch in a colo DC?). > The specific question is quite succinct. > > Presumably Fearchas operates, participates in, or knows of such an IX. > > > -Tim > > On 14/09/16 12:27, Silvan M. Gebhardt wrote: >> yes but the IX assigns the Peering IP's in their subnet Allocation ;) >> >> so it would be "Price v4 and v6 peering ip's differently" >> >> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- >> Von: "Tim Armstrong"<t.armstrong at nerdalize.com> >> An:members-discuss at ripe.net >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2016 12:17:23 >> Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model >> >> You do understand Layer2 is MAC right? IP is in Layer3. >> >> >> On 14/09/16 12:07, Paul Webb wrote: >>> Sell IPv6 ports and IPv4 ports ? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Fearghas Mckay >>> Sent: 14 September 2016 11:02 >>> To:members-discuss at ripe.net >>> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model >>> >>> Paul >>> >>>> On 14 Sep 2016, at 10:40, Paul Webb<Paul.Webb at clearstreamgroup.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> Certainly RIPE, but organisations such as the IX's, could also start making IPv4 more expensive and help the migration and I'd argue they should be. Sadly the larger LIR's have a disproportionate influence in all the important places, which doesn't help. >>> How does an IX that operates at Layer 2 drive the price of IPv4 up ? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>>> If you look at the UK for example, I can't think of any large LIR/ISP that is fully IPv6 ready (there's only one I can think of that isn't too far off), yet I can think of many smaller ones that are 100% good to go and have been for some time. >>> Apart from BT and Sky that have both just finished the v6 rollouts. >>> >>> f >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: >>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >>> >>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. >>> >>> ---- >>> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >>> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: >>> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >>> >>> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. >> ---- >> If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss >> mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: >> https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ >> >> Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. > > > > ---- > If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss > mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: > https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ > > Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses. -- ------------------- Pozdrawiam Damian Wójcik NET-BIS s.c. tel.: 667 767 701 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20160914/a177ef0a/attachment.html>
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