Is there an independent board ...Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Mon Nov 25 17:59:25 CET 2002
My apologies to all for giving Jim Flemming an excuse. That was certainly NOT my intent. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming at ameritech.net> To: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net>; "Axel Pawlik" <axel.pawlik at ripe.net> Cc: "Local IR Working Group" <lir-wg at ripe.net> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Is there an independent board ...Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? > From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net> > Is there an independent board that is charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ? > === > > RIPE is clearly "under" ARIN...partly because of IN-ADDR.ARPA (ARIN|Nominum) being under .ARPA (ICANN). > > http://www.google.com/search?q=nominum+arin > http://www.nominum.com/news/press-releases/arin-pr.html > http://siliconvalley.internet.com/news/article.php/3531_752211 > http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html > http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > http://www.markletaskforce.org/ > http://aspeninstitute.org/c&s/ipp.html > > http://www.arin.net/library/minutes/bot/bot04082002.html > ARIN Board of Trustees Meeting, Las Vegas, Nevada > April 8, 2002 > > called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. MDT > ...adjourn the meeting at 5:09 p.m. MDT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net> > To: "Axel Pawlik" <axel.pawlik at ripe.net> > Cc: "Local IR Working Group" <lir-wg at ripe.net> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:44 AM > Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? > > > > > Activities of the RIPE NCC, including its operation and > > > yearly fee structure, are approved by the membership as > > > proposed in the annual RIPE NCC Activity Plan. The RIPE NCC > > > Activity Plan is formed on input from the RIPE community > > > and users of RIPE NCC services. > > > > you forgot to add "... and can be read in a locked filing cabinet in the > > basement, stored in a disused lavoratory marked beware of the leopard." Or > > whatever the full quote is. > > > > > Due to the economic situation, we saw substantially less > > > influx of new members over the course of the last twelve > > > months than forecast, also we have lost member due to > > > closures and mergers. As a result of that, the RIPE NCC > > > will have a sizeable deficit this year. > > > > But the costs are increasing ? No, that's not right. Less 'customers', less > > 'costs'. A drop in membership results in a 50% increase in costs ? I charge > > that there must be some gross inefficiencies, bad management practicies and > > even potentially some nest-feathering going on. > > > > I *know* I am out of touch, I do not have the time or money to attend ever > > broom-cupboard meeting held by RIPE. Is there an independent board that is > > charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ? As a > > not-for-profit company, this is the least I would expect. If there is, how > > on earth did they approve a 50% increase in fees (resulting in a 4% increase > > in expenditure ?) > > > > > The RIPE NCC appreciates membership feedback and encourages > > > active participation by our members. > > > > I thank you for the stock reply, but now how about some genuine discussion ? > > > > For example, how do we seperate the entitities that are RIPE and RIPE-NCC ? > > > > Peter > > > >
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