[lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Gert Doering gert at space.net
Mon Nov 25 18:18:00 CET 2002
Hi, On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:44:45PM -0000, Peter Galbavy wrote: > > Activities of the RIPE NCC, including its operation and > > yearly fee structure, are approved by the membership as > > proposed in the annual RIPE NCC Activity Plan. The RIPE NCC > > Activity Plan is formed on input from the RIPE community > > and users of RIPE NCC services. > > you forgot to add "... and can be read in a locked filing cabinet in the > basement, stored in a disused lavoratory marked beware of the leopard." Or > whatever the full quote is. But that's not true in this case. The proposed activity plan was announced *right not this list*, and in good time to add comments and eventually make people vote on the AGM against it. [..] > But the costs are increasing ? No, that's not right. Less 'customers', less > 'costs'. A drop in membership results in a 50% increase in costs ? I charge > that there must be some gross inefficiencies, bad management practicies and > even potentially some nest-feathering going on. While I can understand your anger - why don't you just go and *read* the RIPE document with all the numbers in it? This year there was a net *loss*, as the "new members" rate was far lower than planned - and much of the budget (like RIPE training courses) is planned to be paid from thoese fees. > I *know* I am out of touch, I do not have the time or money to attend ever > broom-cupboard meeting held by RIPE. Is there an independent board that is > charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ? That would be the RIPE board. [..] > For example, how do we seperate the entitities that are RIPE and RIPE-NCC ? Ummm. They are separate. RIPE is "the community". The RIPE NCC is the body that does the work for us, and is paid for doing that. They do what *we* put in their activity plan. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 50279 (49875) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster at Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299
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