Is there an independent board ...Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ?
Jim Fleming JimFleming at ameritech.net
Mon Nov 25 17:56:06 CET 2002
From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net> Is there an independent board that is charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ? === RIPE is clearly "under" ARIN...partly because of IN-ADDR.ARPA (ARIN|Nominum) being under .ARPA (ICANN). http://www.google.com/search?q=nominum+arin http://www.nominum.com/news/press-releases/arin-pr.html http://siliconvalley.internet.com/news/article.php/3531_752211 http://www.ultradns.com/about/advisors.html http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space http://www.markletaskforce.org/ http://aspeninstitute.org/c&s/ipp.html http://www.arin.net/library/minutes/bot/bot04082002.html ARIN Board of Trustees Meeting, Las Vegas, Nevada April 8, 2002 called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m. MDT ...adjourn the meeting at 5:09 p.m. MDT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net> To: "Axel Pawlik" <axel.pawlik at ripe.net> Cc: "Local IR Working Group" <lir-wg at ripe.net> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [lir-wg] Re: 50% increase in RIPE fees ? Since when ? > > Activities of the RIPE NCC, including its operation and > > yearly fee structure, are approved by the membership as > > proposed in the annual RIPE NCC Activity Plan. The RIPE NCC > > Activity Plan is formed on input from the RIPE community > > and users of RIPE NCC services. > > you forgot to add "... and can be read in a locked filing cabinet in the > basement, stored in a disused lavoratory marked beware of the leopard." Or > whatever the full quote is. > > > Due to the economic situation, we saw substantially less > > influx of new members over the course of the last twelve > > months than forecast, also we have lost member due to > > closures and mergers. As a result of that, the RIPE NCC > > will have a sizeable deficit this year. > > But the costs are increasing ? No, that's not right. Less 'customers', less > 'costs'. A drop in membership results in a 50% increase in costs ? I charge > that there must be some gross inefficiencies, bad management practicies and > even potentially some nest-feathering going on. > > I *know* I am out of touch, I do not have the time or money to attend ever > broom-cupboard meeting held by RIPE. Is there an independent board that is > charged with overseeing that money is not wasted in lean years ? As a > not-for-profit company, this is the least I would expect. If there is, how > on earth did they approve a 50% increase in fees (resulting in a 4% increase > in expenditure ?) > > > The RIPE NCC appreciates membership feedback and encourages > > active participation by our members. > > I thank you for the stock reply, but now how about some genuine discussion ? > > For example, how do we seperate the entitities that are RIPE and RIPE-NCC ? > > Peter >
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