[Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides

[Elvis Velea]

Hi everyone,

we had a great meeting yesterday, did not expect it to last two hours.

Anyway, after the meeting I promised to come back with the slides within 
the evening.. sorry, was so tired that I could not work on them.

Here are the updates slides, let me know if you think anything we 
discussed is not in the slides or if anything else should be updated.

@Daniel - I still want to talk to you a few minutes, if you have time. 
Let's meet during the coffee break (15-30:16:00) in front of the room we 
had the meeting last night :)

I'll have to upload the slides soon, I will do so today around 17:00 (in 
2.5 hours).. so, if you do want to say anything about the slides, please 
do it within the next two hours.
- very sorry about the tight deadline

cheers,
elvis

On 10/14/13 3:00 PM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
> Hi Elvis
>
> Feedback point 4 was "remove Sponsoring LIR". That's a contra argument.
>
> I have a pro argument for the role "Sponsoring LIR". It could be in short words:
> Sponsoring LIRs constitute an interface between RIPE NCC and nonskilled End Users. Policy conformity would be better supported.
>
> Sorry, I didn't find any shorter sentence :/
>
> Best regards, Olaf
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elvis Velea [mailto:elvis at velea.eu]
> Sent: Montag, 14. Oktober 2013 13:31
> To: Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG
> Cc: Gert Doering; apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides
>
> Hi Olaf,
>
> On 10/14/13 8:46 AM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> First: Thank you for your work, Elvis. It's look great.
>>
>
> thanks ;)
>
>> About feedback point 4:
>>
>> "4. Remove the PI and Sponsoring LIR concepts
>> - everything must flow via the LIR
>> - if the LIR is closed, you must renumber your network
>> - if you have a problem with the LIR, you must renumber"
>>
>> Additional argument:
>> We have a lot of customers, they aren't able to understand any kind of RIPE NCC policies. And, they don't want to read these policies. They want to utilize a service, which provide them address space with policy conformity. Switzerland is highly service-oriented, enterprises concentrate on their business. In addition, Europe has more and more a problem with skills shortage (e.g. Switzerland, Germany). So, concept "Sponsoring LIR" is essential.
>>
>
> could you shorten this comment to a few words?
>
> cheers,
> elvis
>
>>
>> I wish you good look at presentation.
>>
>> Cheers, Olaf
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net
>> [mailto:apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Elvis Velea
>> Sent: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 23:05
>> To: Gert Doering
>> Cc: apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
>> Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> what do you guys think about the slides?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> elvis
>>
>> On 10/9/13 5:35 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:29:08PM +0200, Elvis Velea wrote:
>>>>>> can you give me your previous slides? editable? :-)
>>>>> If you can handle LaTeX...?
>>>>
>>>> ouch, I was able to handle it when I was at university.. all that
>>>> knowledge is now gone :))
>>>
>>> Thought so, the NCC is way too microsoft-centric :-)
>>>
>>>> I'll look for the pdf version :)
>>>
>>> https://ripe62.ripe.net/presentations/148-wg.pdf
>>>
>>> starting at page 19
>>>
>>> RIPE 63 then revisited that topic, based on the outline document we
>>> sent to the mailing list (attached).
>>>
>>> Gert Doering
>>>            -- NetMaster
>>>
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