[Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides

[Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG]

Hi Elvis

Feedback point 4 was "remove Sponsoring LIR". That's a contra argument.

I have a pro argument for the role "Sponsoring LIR". It could be in short words:
Sponsoring LIRs constitute an interface between RIPE NCC and nonskilled End Users. Policy conformity would be better supported.

Sorry, I didn't find any shorter sentence :/

Best regards, Olaf


-----Original Message-----
From: Elvis Velea [mailto:elvis at velea.eu] 
Sent: Montag, 14. Oktober 2013 13:31
To: Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG
Cc: Gert Doering; apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides

Hi Olaf,

On 10/14/13 8:46 AM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First: Thank you for your work, Elvis. It's look great.
>

thanks ;)

> About feedback point 4:
>
> "4. Remove the PI and Sponsoring LIR concepts
> - everything must flow via the LIR
> - if the LIR is closed, you must renumber your network
> - if you have a problem with the LIR, you must renumber"
>
> Additional argument:
> We have a lot of customers, they aren't able to understand any kind of RIPE NCC policies. And, they don't want to read these policies. They want to utilize a service, which provide them address space with policy conformity. Switzerland is highly service-oriented, enterprises concentrate on their business. In addition, Europe has more and more a problem with skills shortage (e.g. Switzerland, Germany). So, concept "Sponsoring LIR" is essential.
>

could you shorten this comment to a few words?

cheers,
elvis

>
> I wish you good look at presentation.
>
> Cheers, Olaf
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net 
> [mailto:apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Elvis Velea
> Sent: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 23:05
> To: Gert Doering
> Cc: apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides
>
> Hi,
>
> what do you guys think about the slides?
>
> Cheers,
> elvis
>
> On 10/9/13 5:35 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:29:08PM +0200, Elvis Velea wrote:
>>>>> can you give me your previous slides? editable? :-)
>>>> If you can handle LaTeX...?
>>>
>>> ouch, I was able to handle it when I was at university.. all that 
>>> knowledge is now gone :))
>>
>> Thought so, the NCC is way too microsoft-centric :-)
>>
>>> I'll look for the pdf version :)
>>
>> https://ripe62.ripe.net/presentations/148-wg.pdf
>>
>> starting at page 19
>>
>> RIPE 63 then revisited that topic, based on the outline document we 
>> sent to the mailing list (attached).
>>
>> Gert Doering
>>           -- NetMaster
>>