[Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides

[Daniel Stolpe]

Sounds good. I didn't find you during lunch.

Cheers,
Daniel

On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Elvis Velea wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> we had a great meeting yesterday, did not expect it to last two hours.
>
> Anyway, after the meeting I promised to come back with the slides within the 
> evening.. sorry, was so tired that I could not work on them.
>
> Here are the updates slides, let me know if you think anything we discussed 
> is not in the slides or if anything else should be updated.
>
> @Daniel - I still want to talk to you a few minutes, if you have time. Let's 
> meet during the coffee break (15-30:16:00) in front of the room we had the 
> meeting last night :)
>
> I'll have to upload the slides soon, I will do so today around 17:00 (in 2.5 
> hours).. so, if you do want to say anything about the slides, please do it 
> within the next two hours.
> - very sorry about the tight deadline
>
> cheers,
> elvis
>
> On 10/14/13 3:00 PM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
>>  Hi Elvis
>>
>>  Feedback point 4 was "remove Sponsoring LIR". That's a contra argument.
>>
>>  I have a pro argument for the role "Sponsoring LIR". It could be in short
>>  words:
>>  Sponsoring LIRs constitute an interface between RIPE NCC and nonskilled
>>  End Users. Policy conformity would be better supported.
>>
>>  Sorry, I didn't find any shorter sentence :/
>>
>>  Best regards, Olaf
>> 
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Elvis Velea [mailto:elvis at velea.eu]
>>  Sent: Montag, 14. Oktober 2013 13:31
>>  To: Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG
>>  Cc: Gert Doering; apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
>>  Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides
>>
>>  Hi Olaf,
>>
>>  On 10/14/13 8:46 AM, Sonderegger Olaf ABRAXAS INFORMATIK AG wrote:
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  First: Thank you for your work, Elvis. It's look great.
>> > 
>>
>>  thanks ;)
>> 
>> >  About feedback point 4:
>> > 
>> >  "4. Remove the PI and Sponsoring LIR concepts
>> >  - everything must flow via the LIR
>> >  - if the LIR is closed, you must renumber your network
>> >  - if you have a problem with the LIR, you must renumber"
>> > 
>> >  Additional argument:
>> >  We have a lot of customers, they aren't able to understand any kind of 
>> >  RIPE NCC policies. And, they don't want to read these policies. They 
>> >  want to utilize a service, which provide them address space with policy 
>> >  conformity. Switzerland is highly service-oriented, enterprises 
>> >  concentrate on their business. In addition, Europe has more and more a 
>> >  problem with skills shortage (e.g. Switzerland, Germany). So, concept 
>> >  "Sponsoring LIR" is essential.
>> > 
>>
>>  could you shorten this comment to a few words?
>>
>>  cheers,
>>  elvis
>> 
>> > 
>> >  I wish you good look at presentation.
>> > 
>> >  Cheers, Olaf
>> > 
>> > 
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >  From: apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net
>> >  [mailto:apwg-ipv6-papi-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Elvis Velea
>> >  Sent: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013 23:05
>> >  To: Gert Doering
>> >  Cc: apwg-ipv6-papi at ripe.net
>> >  Subject: Re: [Apwg-ipv6-papi] informal meeting + slides
>> > 
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  what do you guys think about the slides?
>> > 
>> >  Cheers,
>> >  elvis
>> > 
>> >  On 10/9/13 5:35 PM, Gert Doering wrote:
>> > >  Hi,
>> > > 
>> > >  On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 05:29:08PM +0200, Elvis Velea wrote:
>> > > > > >  can you give me your previous slides? editable? :-)
>> > > > >  If you can handle LaTeX...?
>> > > > 
>> > > >  ouch, I was able to handle it when I was at university.. all that
>> > > >  knowledge is now gone :))
>> > > 
>> > >  Thought so, the NCC is way too microsoft-centric :-)
>> > > 
>> > > >  I'll look for the pdf version :)
>> > > 
>> > >  https://ripe62.ripe.net/presentations/148-wg.pdf
>> > > 
>> > >  starting at page 19
>> > > 
>> > >  RIPE 63 then revisited that topic, based on the outline document we
>> > >  sent to the mailing list (attached).
>> > > 
>> > >  Gert Doering
>> > >             -- NetMaster

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