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Re: [anti-spam-wg] About DNSBLs vs greylisting - Was: Steve Linford and Spamhaus Internet Terrorists

  • From: Walter Ian Kaye walter@localhost
  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:02:51 -0700

At 09:42p +0200 08/20/2006, Esa Laitinen didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus:

This may well be. Also a challence/response system, like previously
mentioned qsecretary, stops most of the junk.

They both have one thing in common: they're antisocial to the rest
of the internet. It is a bit like trowing your garbage over your
fence to your neighbours garden. Sure, you've got rid of it, but
created problems to others.

Both also have the same cost-shifting element than spam has: to get
rid of your junk, you shift part of the cost of your e-mail to
others. Greylisting increases senders mail queues unnecessarily, c/r
requires human intervention and more often than not the challence is
sent to innocent 3rd party.

I have a personal policy to never respond to c/r messages. If someone can't be bothered to receive my mail, that's their problem. If they think I'm ignoring them, tough. It's the c/r system that's being rude, not me. :-)

Spamarrest is evil. Really. If you don't check your logs in 7 days, all record of the email is deleted and you'll never even know someone tried to reach you. Evidently that "service" is designed to facilitate the loss of data.