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Re: [anti-spam-wg] Steve Linford and Spamhaus Internet Terrorists

  • From: Peter Dambier peter@localhost
  • Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:12:53 +0200
  • Organization: Peter and Karin Dambier
  • Reply-to: peter@localhost

Sabri Berisha wrote:
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:50:43AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:


Antispamlists do at least as much harm as do the spammers.

Guns don't kill people, people do. (*)

DNS-blacklists don't refuse e-mail, system administrators implement
them. Their networks, their rules.


If you want to send e-mail to a subscriber of a particular network and
it gets blocked, that subscriber should vote with his money to have the
system administrators change their policies.

I cannot bribe every ISP in the world. So I have to ask my clients to
run their own mailer. That is what I do too. That is why I am using a
dynamic ip-address.

As most blacklists ban dynamic ip-addresses I cannot use them, nor can
my customers.

Nevertheless there exist efficient methods to get rid of spam.

Greylisting works without collateral damage.

Greylisting even works for operators without a clue.

With blacklists you close out the legal users but you keep the spam.
With greylists you may dely a legal user but you do keep out the spam.

Kind regards
Peter and Karin

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