[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)
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Vladimir Andreev
vladimir at quick-soft.net
Tue Jun 9 19:03:43 CEST 2015
>> rotten apples Such words regards to unknown person says a lot about you. Quite a lot. I consider it below my dignity to continue the dialogue with you. 09.06.2015, 19:55, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>: > I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring > to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your > company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8. > > But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away. > > Ciprian > > On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >> You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations. >> >> Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly. >> >> 09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>: >>> On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>>>> help the last /8 pool become even larger >>>> >>>> It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together. >>>> >>>> So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion >>> >>> Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would >>> probably grow a little more than without this. >>>>> The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware >>>>> of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware >>>>> that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread. >>>> >>>> Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion. >>> >>> As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I >>> would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here >>> is the statistics. >>> >>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>> | seller | /22s | >>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>> | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 | >>> | QuickSoft LLC | 30 | >>> | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 | >>> | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 | >>> | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 | >>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>> >>> Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from >>> the last /8. >>> >>> It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the >>> activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia. >>> >>> Ciprian >> >> -- >> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev >> General director, QuickSoft LLC >> Tel: +7 903 1750503 -- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503
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