[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)
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Ciprian Nica
office at ip-broker.uk
Tue Jun 9 18:55:22 CEST 2015
I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8. But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away. Ciprian On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: > You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations. > > Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly. > > 09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>: >> On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>>> help the last /8 pool become even larger >>> >>> It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together. >>> >>> So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion >> >> Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would >> probably grow a little more than without this. >>>> The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware >>>> of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware >>>> that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread. >>> >>> Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion. >> >> As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I >> would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here >> is the statistics. >> >> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >> | seller | /22s | >> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >> | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 | >> | QuickSoft LLC | 30 | >> | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 | >> | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 | >> | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 | >> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >> >> Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from >> the last /8. >> >> It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the >> activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia. >> >> Ciprian > > > > > -- > With best regards, Vladimir Andreev > General director, QuickSoft LLC > Tel: +7 903 1750503 >
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