[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)
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Ciprian Nica
office at ip-broker.uk
Tue Jun 9 19:14:35 CEST 2015
Probably the comparison was not adequate, I just wanted to point out some facts. I apologize for that. Ciprian On 6/9/2015 8:03 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>> rotten apples > > Such words regards to unknown person says a lot about you. Quite a lot. > > I consider it below my dignity to continue the dialogue with you. > > 09.06.2015, 19:55, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>: >> I didn't want to point the finger directly to the ones I was referring >> to but obviously I appologize to all other russians. It's just your >> company and mr. Bulgakov who have abused in my opinion of the last /8. >> >> But only because of 2 rotten apples I would not throw them all away. >> >> Ciprian >> >> On 6/9/2015 7:43 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>> You spoke that "some russians" make profit and don't speak about other nations. >>> >>> Table of TOP transfers from your last letter shows it clearly. >>> >>> 09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office at ip-broker.uk>: >>>> On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>>>>> help the last /8 pool become even larger >>>>> >>>>> It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together. >>>>> >>>>> So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion >>>> >>>> Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would >>>> probably grow a little more than without this. >>>>>> The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware >>>>>> of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware >>>>>> that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread. >>>>> >>>>> Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion. >>>> >>>> As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I >>>> would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here >>>> is the statistics. >>>> >>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>>> | seller | /22s | >>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>>> | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 | >>>> | QuickSoft LLC | 30 | >>>> | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 | >>>> | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 | >>>> | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 | >>>> +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ >>>> >>>> Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from >>>> the last /8. >>>> >>>> It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the >>>> activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia. >>>> >>>> Ciprian >>> >>> -- >>> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev >>> General director, QuickSoft LLC >>> Tel: +7 903 1750503 > > > -- > With best regards, Vladimir Andreev > General director, QuickSoft LLC > Tel: +7 903 1750503 >
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