[routing-wg] The dangers of demonizing bogons 2019-08 : (Fwd: [ncc-announce] [news] Sanctions and the RIPE NCC: Status Update)
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Melchior Aelmans
melchior at aelmans.eu
Wed Jun 24 20:27:50 CEST 2020
Job, Although I see your concerns I don't agree that 2019-08 changes RPKI from "opt-in" to "no opt-out". In fact, 2019-08 gives you options to "opt-in" in multiple ways and so gives you options to choose from. Regards, Melchior On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:46 PM Job Snijders <job at ntt.net> wrote: > Dear group, > > This message is in context of 2019-08 and related policy proposals in > other regions of the world. When the RPKI is changed from an "opt-in" to an > "no opt-out" mechanism, things will break horribly. Christian's message > should make that clear. > > Imagine that the sanctions progress in intensity, to a state where RIPE > NCC must de-register the resources assigned to the 3 members on the > sanctions list. Their resources would stop being assigned, and move into > the unassigned pool. This means they'll end up on the SLURM file, and if > *you* use that SLURM file you will NOT be able to communicate via the > Internet with fellow humans who happened to be born into an unfortunate > situation. For this reason I will not use such SLURM files, they have the > potential to do far more harm than they are doing me good. > > > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/job_snijders/dont-terminate-peoples-internet-connections > > The people in charge will find a way to browse the web anyway (satellite, > lease IPs from other places), where stuff like this really hurts is the > small people that are trying to find information on the Internet about the > state of the world. > > Please read the below and ask yourself whether it really is worth it to > pursue 2019-08 or related policies in other regions. > > Kind regards, > > Job > > ----- Original message ----- > From: Christian Kaufmann <exec-board at ripe.net> > To: ncc-announce at ripe.net > Subject: [ncc-announce] [news] Sanctions and the RIPE NCC: Status Update > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 13:09 > > Dear members, > > I want to briefly update you on the current situation involving sanctions, > following my last email back in April[1]. > > In short, there have been no major developments and the situation is > largely unchanged. However, to keep you informed, allow me to briefly run > through this again. > > STATUS OF EXEMPTION REQUEST AND FROZEN MEMBERSHIPS > > In April, we mentioned that the RIPE NCC was seeking an exemption from EU > sanctions regulation from the Dutch authorities. The authorities have > indicated that their response will take longer than usual, possibly due to > the COVID-19 situation. We will inform you when we receive a decision on > our request. > > For the three members believed to be on the sanctions list, this means > that their LIR accounts remain frozen and they remain unable to access RIPE > NCC services. While this is not ideal, it does mean that their resources > have not been deregistered. > > BANK TRANSFERS FROM IRANIAN AND SYRIAN MEMBERS > > My earlier email also mentioned that the RIPE NCC's bank had temporarily > revoked its ability to receive bank transfers from members in Iran and > Syria. Unfortunately, this restriction remains in place and will likely > remain so until the RIPE NCC receives a response to its exemption request. > > As this will probably take longer than the 1 July payment deadline, the > RIPE NCC is looking at ways to address this and will follow up with > affected members directly. > > RIPE NCC EXECUTIVE BOARD POSITION > > This is also unchanged, but I think you'll agree that this is a good > thing: "The Executive Board of the RIPE NCC believes that the means of > communication should not be affected by political discussions or disputes. > This includes the provision of correctly registered Internet numbering > resources."[2] > > At our board meeting last week, we reaffirmed that the RIPE NCC is > committed to pursuing all legal means to continue providing services to all > of its members. As we have already stated, we believe the Internet is a > critical tool for humanity and should not be affected by political > discussions. > > I regret that we are not yet able to give a more positive update, we are > doing all we can to resolve this issue. If you have any questions or > comments for the board, please contact us at <exec-board at ripe.net>. > > Regards > > Christian Kaufmann > RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman > > [1] Sanctions and the RIPE NCC: Current Status and Executive Board > Position: > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-announce/2020-April/001413.html > > [2] Executive Board Resolution on Continuity of Services to all RIPE NCC > Members: > > https://www.ripe.net/publications/news/about-ripe-ncc-and-ripe/executive-board-resolution-on-continuity-of-services-to-all-ripe-ncc-members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/routing-wg/attachments/20200624/74d0673b/attachment.html>
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