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Re: National NICs sought for Network Number Assignments

  • To: Dave Morton < >
  • From: Peter Lothberg < >
  • Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 14:13:44 MET DST
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> >   Juha, I don't understand, does this mean you do not have a national
> >   NIC ? Who coordinates all this !!
> >
> >to my understanding, yes, it does mean that we don't have a national
> >NIC.  we haven't set up such a mechnaism yet.  most likely it would
> >mean that those who are no customers of any of the finnish service
> >providers should have to pay for the establishement of the NIC.
> >coordination among the service providers has been done by bilateral
> >agreements in those cases where trafic has been exchanged.  you must
> >understand that there are many competing service providers which makes
> >the situation tricky.
> >
> >-- juha
> >
> >
> Juha,
> This is rather interesting. DIGI e.V. (German Internet Users Society)
> is presently in the process of attempting a re-organisation of the 
> existing DE-NIC on a more financially and administratively secure footing. 
> We, in Germany, also have multiple service providers, and probably more
> on the way real soon now. One of these service providers is currently
> attempting a "takeover" of the current neutral NIC. To what extent it
> has a God given right to run the service is not at all clear to me, nor
> for that matter to many others either. How such a "monopolised" DE-NIC
> should continue work in a neutral fashion for the other providers etc. 
> has not been made clear, to my knowledge, to anybody, including the 
> current DE-NIC token holder.  We're awaiting further developments in 
> this area.
> It's nice to see that the Finns have somehow managed to avoid this
> German situation until now, although I do have the feeling from what
> you say that there's plenty of potential for a similar Finnish problem
> as well !
> The DIGI model proposes a commission to specify the tasks of such a DE-NIC,
> as well as the financial and the legal framework in which it might operate.
> The commission consists of service providers, DIGI representatives as well as
> representatives from both the academic/research and commercial communities. 
> We are of the opinion that only through such a general forum will we be able
> to achieve a solid and lasting consensus. This, of course, will require the
> cooperation of all the interested parties, which we hope will be forthcoming.
> Wish us luck.
> Dave

It is not obvius that being "the NIC" buys you anything more than
extra work. 

In Sweden the user organisation SNUS together with all the providors
are trying to get a coordination between OSI-MHS and TCP/IP namings
under country SE, and upto now it sounds like that they will succed.

This will give One NIC for all of it.


Probably from the network operators, whose buisiness are benefiting
from this.


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