[ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements
- Previous message (by thread): [ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements
- Next message (by thread): [ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
Nigel Titley
nigel at titley.com
Tue Feb 1 11:31:15 CET 2022
Hank On 01/02/2022 06:56, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > I too agree with Denis and Gert but there is no need to accept blame. > Denis is not accusing anyone. If anything, we are all to blame for not > being as diligent as Denis. Denis has even suggested a way forward: > > "it will benefit the RIPE NCC to employ someone qualified or experienced > in contract law to review and re-write all the NCC's contracts and > agreements so they actually say what they were intended to mean." Indeed, and I think that this would be the way forward. And I also thank Denis for the excellent analysis that he has done. If this had occurred on my watch then I would have started by pointing the RIPE NCC legal team at Denis' remarks and asking them to do their own analysis. I would also have thanked Denis publicly, whilst noting that his language might have been more temperate. The trouble with the Respect Policy is that it is rather like a machine gun. There are times when it is the weapon of choice: in a case of bullying or ad hominem attack for instance. But where the attack has been against a document, whose authors are lost in the mists of time, it is like using a machine gun against a pea-shooter. And for it to be brought out at the start of a discussion makes one start to very gently wonder if there is maybe more of a case to answer than can be explained by bit-rot, documents not written by native English speakers and internet chat-room lawyers (amongst whom I proudly count myself (although I would claim that my English is probably fair enough)). Finally, I would just like this to be laid to rest. Tempers are rising and the heat may eventually reach the level where the Respect Policy *is* the weapon of choice. I call on everyone, myself included, to calm down, have a cup of tea, and let Hans-Petter get on with the job of getting his legal team to verify (or not) what Denis has said. Yours in Peace ;-) Nigel
- Previous message (by thread): [ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements
- Next message (by thread): [ripe-list] LIR and Member Agreements
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]