[RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] {Spam?} Re: How to get people to actually plug in their probes?

RIPE Atlas asked and I agreed to have probes delivered to me at in
Vancouver so that different person could distribute them at a conference
(that I was not attending).

Nearly all of those are offline (and were never online), and they now count
against me. I should never have agreed to that shipment, especially if they
would now count against me: I have already got there (re 50% policy).

My next good opportunity to distribute is at DebConf 2018 in Taiwan.


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:32 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet <
dp at datasoftcomnet.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Unless RIPE deploys an uptimerobot type of solution for all the users
> hosting its probes and notifies them on email and SMS on reachability
> issues – there won’t be any buy in by the end–users.
>
> If RIPE does that – there will be a clamour for devices and also they will
> be self maintained by the users since they are getting uptime reports
> instantly and they can use it to measure their links uptime.
>
> Right now we are depending on the goodwill of the ambassadors but it wears
> thin when we start bugging them to maintain the devices. The high failure
> rates don’t help either.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Durga Prasad
>
> +919849111010
>
>
>
> *From:* RIPE-Atlas-Ambassadors [mailto:ripe-atlas-
> ambassadors-bounces at ripe.net] *On Behalf Of *M. Tajbakhsh
> *Sent:* 09 April 2018 00:53
> *To:* Lia Hestina
> *Cc:* RIPE Atlas ambassador mailing list
> *Subject:* {Spam?} Re: [RIPE Atlas Ambassadors] How to get people to
> actually plug in their probes?
>
>
>
> Dear Lia,
>
> Please let me correct our course of action a little bit:
>
> 1. People, even carefully selected & briefed tech guys, have their
> concerns about letting probes into their networks and the resources a probe
> may swallow. (we know that's negligible, they don't believe)
>
> 2. Not only memory stick, but probes themselves fail. That happens after
> about 2 years. Believe me, solutions on those doc page(s) don't fix them at
> this stage.
>
> 3. Hosts lose interest MOST of the time, regardless of their background,
> mostly because they gain nothing meaningful in the long run. (atlas credit
> does not count) All they do is out of personal respect for the ambassador
> and his cause (yes, we are spending out of our friendly relations for this,
> it has its own consequences). The host gets nothing in return but random
> requests to fix the baby. That's kinda boring and annoying.
>
> 4. Any other number you set as percentage for this and yet it will fail. A
> time will come for any ambassador that he is stuck with enough dead probes
> that you won't give him any more. I wonder how many of us have already got
> there.
>
> I believe Atlas needs a "failed/lost probes replacement" policy rather
> than an "X % live probes to get a new batch" policy.
>
> ​Regards,
> M. Tajbakhsh
>
> Lia Hestina wrote:
>
>
>                         1.     People don’t plug in their probes after
> getting one from an ambassador
>                         2.     Host experiences probe USB failure
>                         3.     Hosts lose interest sometimes
>                         4.     The RIPE NCC policy that probes needs to
> be at least 50% active
>
>
>
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