[ncc-services-wg] New on RIPE Labs: RPKI Repositories and the RIPE Database in the Cloud

Hi,

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:40:07PM +0200, Alun Davies wrote:
> The mission critical services the RIPE NCC provides to the Internet
> community require a solid technical foundation. In this new article
> on RIPE Labs, Felipe Silveira looks at plans to use cloud infrastructure
> as a means to that end. The full article is available here:

As a member, I do not want the RIPE NCC to spend our money on "give away
control on critical services".

Use of cloud services (or any other "outsourced infrastructure") is something
I consider acceptable as a *backup* in case of something catastrophic 
happening to the RIPE NCC operated machines, to restore services to members
and community quicker.

Using cloud services generally implies

 - loss of control 
    --> so the NCC *must* be primary authority on all data, and the cloud
    can only be a cache

 - loss of contact and responsibility
    --> if a NCC provided service does not work, I do not want to talk to
    a cloud provider hotline, or hear from the NCC "well, there is nothing 
    we can do, something in the cloud is broken"


All this cloudstuff is really great if you need "elastic services" (like,
when the big run on the last IPv4 space starts, scale up the LIR portal
to 200 instances - oh, wait, this opportunity got missed), or "low latency
for high bandwidth content delivery" (so, yeah, ... no?).

But for the services the NCC provides, "cloud" sounds like "yeah, someone
else to blaim if it explodes", and this is not why we give the NCC money.


(And no, there is not much trust from my side, since the ticket system is
*still* a major annoyance in our day to day dealing with the NCC - despite
promises, two years ago, to make this more usable)

Gert Doering
        -- voting LIR contact
-- 
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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