[members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and emails
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Munir Badr
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Mon Apr 27 14:07:35 CEST 2020
Wow guys there is some intense action going on here. It seems that the best way to END this is to *STOP replying and reacting*. Go do something else on the quarantine. For those who are still arguing, get a room and do it there, you dont need to spam everyone on the list. I dont care about anything you write here and this is my first and last reply to this thread. On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:02 PM TNC - Alessandro Morreale < a.morreale at tradingnetwork.it> wrote: > Is there any good guy that can exclude me from this conversation? > > It seems the unsubscribe link I used several times doesn't work and, to be > honest over 170 messages from this group in last two days it's really too > much > > thanks fof your comprehension > Il 27/04/20 13:50, Cynthia Revström ha scritto: > > Hi Elad, > > There are 3 major differences I see here, > > 1. rfg presents lots of evidence that you would have been involved in > shady things (I am not sure if they are true and frankly I don't have time > currently to look at all of the documents) > Meanwhile you are saying that people are part of "The illegal anonymous > Spamhaus Project" just because they disagree with you, and as you have said > that I am involved in Spamhaus, I would like for you to give me any proof > that I am involved with spamhaus in any way (which I am not). > > 2. rfg called you a "crook", which means dishonest or illegal, which would > be true if the things rfg stated are in fact true. Meanwhile you called rfg > a "coconut" which can't be anything other than an insult referring to you > thinking he is dumb. > > 3. rfg called you a "crook" once in a long email after describing why he > thinks you are a "crook", meanwhile you sent an email that I have posted in > its entirety below. > > > START > > Michael, > > Ronald didn't insult me because he is mentally-illed, and he is doing it only because I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which Coconut Guilmette and Cheerleader Nussbacher are part of. > > Respectfully, > Elad > > > END > > Please just stop it Elad. > > Now I still think it was wrong of rfg to use that word, but it is not at > all the same thing in my eyes. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:36 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote: > >> >> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/2019-September/005301.html >> >> These are all complete lies only because I found out who are the real >> people behind "The Spamhaus Project" >> >> You can see how he is calling me there >> >> Everything there are lies and fake, the "source" for the fake media >> report is a member of "The Spamhaus Project" and also an employee of a >> direct competitor (that enjoyed from that fake media report) of a company >> which used the netblock, and the "source" is also the owner of that >> criminal twitter account: https://twitter.com/UnderTheBreach , he is a >> master of cyber influence operations according to his own words in his >> criminal twitter account and also a member of your cyber-security community. >> >> Respectfully, >> Elad >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:14 PM >> *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> >> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and >> emails >> >> Elad, please send me an archive link to the specific email on a RIPE/RIPE >> NCC mailing list where RFG called you a rude name. >> >> - Cynthia >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote: >> >> He called me with antisemitic names many times and on many working groups >> and you said nothing, you claim not to see his messages, but you clearly >> saw all of my messages and you are monitoring me pretty well. I'm sorry but >> I don't believe you, specially when you are attacking me personally so >> heavily with distorting the facts. You clearly so the word coconut - so you >> also saw what I shared on the same post that he wrote on other groups of >> people and that he was called a racist and an antisemitic - but you decided >> to ignore this as well, so you didn't read my whole post - you read only >> the word 'coconut' and you decided to jump in ? >> >> Cynthia, please spread your lies somewhere else. >> >> Respectfully, >> Elad >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:05 PM >> *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> >> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and >> emails >> >> Elad, first of all, I am not an employee or in any way related to >> Spamhaus, and I doubt many of the people you have suggested are part of it >> have anything to do with it either. >> >> And because I have things to do that are not spending my entire days on >> RIPE mailing lists I guess I missed RFG calling you names, but I will >> assure you that if I was on those discussions I would call him out if he >> called you a "coconut" or similar. >> Also just because someone has called you names on mailing lists doesn't >> mean you get to call them names on mailing lists. >> >> - Cynthia >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote: >> >> Cynthia, >> >> The sick person which you are referring to and is your colleague from >> "The Spamhaus Project", defamed me for many many months, here in Ripe and >> in Nanog, he called me by many names without a single proof. He was called >> an antisemitic and a racist not by me - but by people which are not >> related to me in Nanog. After many months I provided an official response >> in Ripe. I didn't hear your voice when he defamed me for many many months >> with him calling me by many names. So obviously your interests are hidden. >> >> In the other working groups - I only replied to him, and I didn't hear >> your voice regarding your sick colleague initial message with name callings >> towards me when I only replied to his attack on me. And his personal attack >> on me is exactly like your personal attack on me now - you are afraid that >> an alternative solution to "The Spamhaus Project" will be implemented if I >> will be elected. >> >> Respectfully, >> Elad >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of >> Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 1:50 PM >> *To:* Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net> >> *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and >> emails >> >> > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality" >> on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' >> responsibility. >> >> AFAIK there are no WG chairs of members-discuss and members-discuss is a >> mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to let RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE >> NCC membership related topics, so I think they certainly have business >> enforcing people to be professional on this mailing list. >> >> I would also like to add that Elad has multiple times on different >> mailing lists ignored the WG chairs. >> Also this is happening across a variety of RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing lists >> that are all hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such I think it is their >> business to keep them to a professional standard. >> >> > If I'm wrong, where do >> I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the >> community? >> >> There should not be a long list of people, but when someone is behaving >> unprofessionally, calling people "coconut", being defamatory towards the >> RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do think that they have gone too far and >> everything has a limit. >> Like we wouldn't allow someone to send sales emails to the mailing list >> as an example, aka limits on what is allowed. >> >> - Cynthia >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net> >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:02:59AM +0200, Cynthia Revstrm wrote: >> >I would like to propose that the RIPE NCC ban Elad Cohen from interacting >> >with the RIPE Community (via Meetings or mailing lists) due to his >> blatant >> >disregard for the Code of Conduct and for being hostile towards others in >> >the community. As the RIPE NCC hosts and manages these lists I think the >> >RIPE NCC has a responsibility to keep the lists professional and to >> remove >> >those who repeatedly ignore what the WG chairs are saying. >> >> The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality" >> on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' >> responsibility. Nor do I think the NCC should determine who can >> be a member of the RIPE community or not. If I'm wrong, where do >> I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the >> community? >> I think this proposal is the most out-of-order thing I've yet >> seen in this thread. >> >> rgds, >> Sascha Luck >> >> > >> >- Cynthia >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >members-discuss mailing list >> >members-discuss at ripe.net >> >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> >Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-md%40c4inet.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/me%40cynthia.re >> >> > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing listmembers-discuss at ripe.nethttps://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a.morreale%40tradingnetwork.it > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/munir%40aeserver.com > -- <https://www.aeserver.com/> *MUNIR BADR* Book A Call: Click here <https://calendly.com/aeserver/call/> Sales Hotline: *800 123 123* | Intl: +971 4 2493030 <https://www.facebook.com/AEserver/> <https://twitter.com/aeserver> <https://www.instagram.com/aeserver/> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeserver/> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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