[members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and emails
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Santos Martinez Guirao
santos at tvcehegin.com
Mon Apr 27 13:32:43 CEST 2020
UNISUSCRIBE LIST El 27/4/20 a las 13:14, Cynthia Revström escribió: > Elad, please send me an archive link to the specific email on a > RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing list where RFG called you a rude name. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io > <mailto:elad at netstyle.io>> wrote: > > He called me with antisemitic names many times and on many working > groups and you said nothing, you claim not to see his messages, > but you clearly saw all of my messages and you are monitoring me > pretty well. I'm sorry but I don't believe you, specially when you > are attacking me personally so heavily with distorting the facts. > You clearly so the word coconut - so you also saw what I shared on > the same post that he wrote on other groups of people and that he > was called a racist and an antisemitic - but you decided to ignore > this as well, so you didn't read my whole post - you read only the > word 'coconut' and you decided to jump in ? > > Cynthia, please spread your lies somewhere else. > > Respectfully, > Elad > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re <mailto:me at cynthia.re>> > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:05 PM > *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io <mailto:elad at netstyle.io>> > *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > <members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination > and emails > Elad, first of all, I am not an employee or in any way related to > Spamhaus, and I doubt many of the people you have suggested are > part of it have anything to do with it either. > > And because I have things to do that are not spending my entire > days on RIPE mailing lists I guess I missed RFG calling you names, > but I will assure you that if I was on those discussions I would > call him out if he called you a "coconut" or similar. > Also just because someone has called you names on mailing lists > doesn't mean you get to call them names on mailing lists. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io > <mailto:elad at netstyle.io>> wrote: > > Cynthia, > > The sick person which you are referring to and is your > colleague from "The Spamhaus Project", defamed me for many > many months, here in Ripe and in Nanog, he called me by many > names without a single proof. He was called an antisemitic and > a racist not by me - but by people which are not related to > me in Nanog. After many months I provided an official response > in Ripe. I didn't hear your voice when he defamed me for many > many months with him calling me by many names. So obviously > your interests are hidden. > > In the other working groups - I only replied to him, and I > didn't hear your voice regarding your sick colleague initial > message with name callings towards me when I only replied to > his attack on me. And his personal attack on me is exactly > like your personal attack on me now - you are afraid that an > alternative solution to "The Spamhaus Project" will be > implemented if I will be elected. > > Respectfully, > Elad > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net>> on behalf of > Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re <mailto:me at cynthia.re>> > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 1:50 PM > *To:* Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net > <mailto:ripe-md at c4inet.net>> > *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> <members-discuss at ripe.net > <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net>> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's > nomination and emails > > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing > "professionality" > on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' > responsibility. > > AFAIK there are no WG chairs of members-discuss and > members-discuss is a mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to > let RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE NCC membership related > topics, so I think they certainly have business enforcing > people to be professional on this mailing list. > > I would also like to add that Elad has multiple times on > different mailing lists ignored the WG chairs. > Also this is happening across a variety of RIPE/RIPE NCC > mailing lists that are all hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such > I think it is their business to keep them to a professional > standard. > > > If I'm wrong, where do > I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the > community? > > There should not be a long list of people, but when someone is > behaving unprofessionally, calling people "coconut", being > defamatory towards the RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do > think that they have gone too far and everything has a limit. > Like we wouldn't allow someone to send sales emails to the > mailing list as an example, aka limits on what is allowed. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM Sascha Luck [ml] > <ripe-md at c4inet.net <mailto:ripe-md at c4inet.net>> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:02:59AM +0200, Cynthia Revstrm > wrote: > >I would like to propose that the RIPE NCC ban Elad Cohen > from interacting > >with the RIPE Community (via Meetings or mailing lists) > due to his blatant > >disregard for the Code of Conduct and for being hostile > towards others in > >the community. As the RIPE NCC hosts and manages these > lists I think the > >RIPE NCC has a responsibility to keep the lists > professional and to remove > >those who repeatedly ignore what the WG chairs are saying. > > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing > "professionality" > on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' > responsibility. Nor do I think the NCC should determine > who can > be a member of the RIPE community or not. If I'm wrong, > where do > I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the > community? > I think this proposal is the most out-of-order thing I've yet > seen in this thread. > > rgds, > Sascha Luck > > > > >- Cynthia > > >_______________________________________________ > >members-discuss mailing list > >members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > >Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-md%40c4inet.net > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss at ripe.net> > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/me%40cynthia.re > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/santos%40tvcehegin.com -- Santos Martinez Guirao Tlf +34 696815396 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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