[members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and emails
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Cynthia Revström
me at cynthia.re
Mon Apr 27 13:14:24 CEST 2020
Elad, please send me an archive link to the specific email on a RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing list where RFG called you a rude name. - Cynthia On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:12 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote: > He called me with antisemitic names many times and on many working groups > and you said nothing, you claim not to see his messages, but you clearly > saw all of my messages and you are monitoring me pretty well. I'm sorry but > I don't believe you, specially when you are attacking me personally so > heavily with distorting the facts. You clearly so the word coconut - so you > also saw what I shared on the same post that he wrote on other groups of > people and that he was called a racist and an antisemitic - but you decided > to ignore this as well, so you didn't read my whole post - you read only > the word 'coconut' and you decided to jump in ? > > Cynthia, please spread your lies somewhere else. > > Respectfully, > Elad > ------------------------------ > *From:* Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 2:05 PM > *To:* Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> > *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and > emails > > Elad, first of all, I am not an employee or in any way related to > Spamhaus, and I doubt many of the people you have suggested are part of it > have anything to do with it either. > > And because I have things to do that are not spending my entire days on > RIPE mailing lists I guess I missed RFG calling you names, but I will > assure you that if I was on those discussions I would call him out if he > called you a "coconut" or similar. > Also just because someone has called you names on mailing lists doesn't > mean you get to call them names on mailing lists. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:58 PM Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote: > > Cynthia, > > The sick person which you are referring to and is your colleague from "The > Spamhaus Project", defamed me for many many months, here in Ripe and in > Nanog, he called me by many names without a single proof. He was called an > antisemitic and a racist not by me - but by people which are not related > to me in Nanog. After many months I provided an official response in Ripe. > I didn't hear your voice when he defamed me for many many months with him > calling me by many names. So obviously your interests are hidden. > > In the other working groups - I only replied to him, and I didn't hear > your voice regarding your sick colleague initial message with name callings > towards me when I only replied to his attack on me. And his personal attack > on me is exactly like your personal attack on me now - you are afraid that > an alternative solution to "The Spamhaus Project" will be implemented if I > will be elected. > > Respectfully, > Elad > ------------------------------ > *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of > Cynthia Revström <me at cynthia.re> > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 1:50 PM > *To:* Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net> > *Cc:* members-discuss at ripe.net <members-discuss at ripe.net> > *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Regarding Elad Cohen's nomination and > emails > > > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality" > on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' > responsibility. > > AFAIK there are no WG chairs of members-discuss and members-discuss is a > mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to let RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE > NCC membership related topics, so I think they certainly have business > enforcing people to be professional on this mailing list. > > I would also like to add that Elad has multiple times on different mailing > lists ignored the WG chairs. > Also this is happening across a variety of RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing lists > that are all hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such I think it is their > business to keep them to a professional standard. > > > If I'm wrong, where do > I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the > community? > > There should not be a long list of people, but when someone is behaving > unprofessionally, calling people "coconut", being defamatory towards the > RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do think that they have gone too far and > everything has a limit. > Like we wouldn't allow someone to send sales emails to the mailing list as > an example, aka limits on what is allowed. > > - Cynthia > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:43 PM Sascha Luck [ml] <ripe-md at c4inet.net> > wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:02:59AM +0200, Cynthia Revstrm wrote: > >I would like to propose that the RIPE NCC ban Elad Cohen from interacting > >with the RIPE Community (via Meetings or mailing lists) due to his blatant > >disregard for the Code of Conduct and for being hostile towards others in > >the community. As the RIPE NCC hosts and manages these lists I think the > >RIPE NCC has a responsibility to keep the lists professional and to remove > >those who repeatedly ignore what the WG chairs are saying. > > The RIPE *NCC* has no business either enforcing "professionality" > on the *community* mailing lists - this is the WG chairs' > responsibility. Nor do I think the NCC should determine who can > be a member of the RIPE community or not. If I'm wrong, where do > I submit the list of people I'd like to see excluded from the > community? > I think this proposal is the most out-of-order thing I've yet > seen in this thread. > > rgds, > Sascha Luck > > > > >- Cynthia > > >_______________________________________________ > >members-discuss mailing list > >members-discuss at ripe.net > >https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > >Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-md%40c4inet.net > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/me%40cynthia.re > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20200427/daa3877b/attachment.html>
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