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Tim Wicinski
twicinski at salesforce.com
Thu Dec 19 15:47:41 CET 2019
I vote for keeping the list, and if there was a way to verify reliable brokers easily, that would be a bonus. I am not in favor of RIPE acting as a broker at this time. tim On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Heng Lu <h.lu at outsideheaven.com> wrote: > Hi > > I am not very comfortable with idea have ripe become some sort of > regulatory for brokerage market... > > Maxemilian Hilbrand <maxemilian.hilbrand at isicore.com>于2019年12月19日 > 周四22:39写道： > >> I would also vote for option B >> >> >> >> As I completely understand that costs were associated with LIR accounts, >> a fee for transferring IP address spaces is justified. Assuming, the most >> of us did not “purchase” IP addresses before (we run out of IPv4), a source >> of trusted traders would be essential to make a transaction. Even better >> would be to get the addresses directly from the LIR. >> >> Furthermore, RIPE might suggest a price per IP address or limit the >> price. This would avoid excessive trading and money-making with initially >> “free” addresses. >> >> >> >> Best regards >> >> >> >> >> >> *Maxemilian Hilbrand* (Software & Systeme) >> >> [image: isicore_s_small] >> >> CH: +41 71 511 722 0 >> AT (mobile): +43 660 703 92 54 >> maxemilian.hilbrand at isicore.com >> >> >> isicore AG • Unterlettenstrasse 14 • CH-9443 Widnau >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Unterlettenstrasse+14+%E2%80%A2+CH-9443+Widnau?entry=gmail&source=g> >> Gerichtsstandort CH-9450 Altstätten, UID CHE-110.354.078 >> Verwaltungsratspräsident: Maxemilian Hilbrand >> >> www.isicore.com* I *info at isicore.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> *Im Auftrag >> von *Lilia Carvalho via members-discuss >> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2019 15:18 >> *An:* Schnabeltier <ripe-member-discuss at cidr.eu>; >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> *Betreff:* Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List >> >> >> >> I would vote for option B … >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://www.angolacables.com/?utm_campaign=AngolaCables&utm_source=Website&utm_medium=Traffic> >> >> Melhores Cumprimentos / Kind Regards. >> Lilia Carvalho >> >> Especialista de Desenvolvimento de Negócio >> *Business Development Specialist* >> >> mob: +244927686185 >> email: lilia.carvalho at angolacables.co.ao >> www.angolacables.co.ao >> AS Number: 37468 >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.angolacables.co.ao/sacs/#utm_source=Website_AC&utm_medium=Servi%C3%A7os&utm_campaign=SACS> >> >> Antes de imprimir esta mensagem, pense no meio ambiente. | Please >> consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDADE: Esta mensagem (e eventuais ficheiros anexos) é >> confidencial e deverá ser lida apenas por aqueles a quem ela é dirigida. 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I would vote for option B: >> >> >> >> A) Keeping the list. >> >> >> >> B) We would consider it as important to have a list of reliable brokers. >> The RIPE NCC would only publish information of brokers which are verified. >> If the majority would vote for this option, we have to find a solution how >> to verify the integrity of brokers. >> >> >> >> C) We do not consider a list of reliable brokers as important. While RIPE >> NCC cannot or does not want to validate the integrity of brokers at this >> moment, the list should be removed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Christian Kaufmann <exec-board at ripe.net >> <http:///email/new/1/exec-board%40ripe.net>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, 19. Dec 2019 – 10:17 CET +0100 >> *To:* members-discuss at ripe.net >> <http:///email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net> >> >> *Subject:* [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List >> >> Dear RIPE NCC members, >> >> >> >> The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see >> >> general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE >> >> NCC's website. >> >> >> >> The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or >> >> otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons >> >> with both options. >> >> >> >> Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few >> >> headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model >> >> provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might >> >> happen if this incentive is gone. >> >> >> >> Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE >> >> Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate >> >> here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter >> >> approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this? >> >> >> >> Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts >> >> on this list. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> Christian Kaufmann >> >> RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> members-discuss mailing list >> >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ripe-member-discuss%40cidr.eu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/tech%40outsideheaven.com >> > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/twicinski%40salesforce.com > -- <http://smart.salesforce.com/sig/twicinski//us_mb/default/link.html> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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