[members-discuss] R: Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
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Zdeněk Lebiš
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Thu Dec 19 15:19:39 CET 2019
+1 ;) -- S pozdravem Z.Lebiš ign.cz internet, s.r.o. 605 830 328 Dne 19. 12. 19 v 14:23 Redcluster napsal(a): > I would say RIPE NCC should become the broker for its members. > > It's quite clear that most ipv4 transfers are sales, nobody would give > back a valuable resource. > > Why not make it easy, simple and transparent? List the block for > sale via RIPE, see all listings and prices, buy it via RIPE. > > Regards, > > Bogdan > > On 12/19/2019 12:44 PM, Jetten Raymond wrote: >> Alessandro, >> >> I think that the RIPE NCC should not be(come) a bank. >> >> Everyone else >> >> I can understand B, but also C. >> If we have to go for B, there are a few things we must change: >> page: >> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/transfers/transfer-faqs/do-brokers-need-to-be-registered-with-the-ripe-ncc-to-arrange-transfers >> says "brokers are not endorsed by the RIPE NCC" >> and page: >> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers >> >> mentions them anyway. >> >> if we want to keep B the section 6 in the agreement with the broker: >> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers/RecognisedIPv4BrokerAgreement.doc >> >> should more explicit mention the misuse of the database and other >> rules and the termination can be immediate (?). >> (maybe an amendment for the current ones?) >> >> Rgds, >> >> Ray >> >> >> >> >> >> For Internal Use Only >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> On Behalf Of >> Alessandro Bondesan >> Sent: 19. joulukuuta 2019 12:19 >> To: members-discuss at ripe.net >> Subject: [members-discuss] R: Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List >> >> I vote for B too and i think that it will be a good thing to create a >> policy that brokers need to accept, maybe it can be a good thing to >> update the LIR portal to permit the LIR to contact the broker and >> operate the transfer inside the portal itself and with the >> negotiations regulated by RIPE NCC, this is, in part, already done >> but i mean the following, RIPE NCC can do a sort of man in the middle >> for the negotiations between LIR and broker and operate the money >> transfer, for example, LIR transfer money to RIPE NCC, when IP >> transfer is completed, RIPE NCC transfer money to the broker, perhaps >> with a cost limitation and a fee for RIPE NCC for the transfer (a >> sort of PayPal) with a dispute manager, or another interesting thing >> is to implement a sort of auction so the best offer can win (with >> cost limitations so the smaller LIR can afford the cost). >> >> >> Alessandro Bondesan >> 4ALL >> >> Net Global srl >> AS50316 >> >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net] Per >> conto di Brandon Butterworth >> Inviato: giovedì 19 dicembre 2019 11:10 >> A: Lu Heng >> Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net >> Oggetto: Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List >> >> On Thu Dec 19, 2019 at 05:42:45PM +0800, Lu Heng wrote: >>> I would suggest we go for option C, it???s really not ripe???s job >>> to provide >>> nor endorse any brokers. >> I suggest B as we're not asking ripe to endorse them, we're >> asking ripe to provide a reputation registry for members to >> populate, much like ebay does for vendors. Ones who go bad >> will be kicked out leaving a trail and less scope to cause >> harm than in a black market. >> >> brandon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/a.bondesan%40netglobal.it >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/raymond.jetten%40elisa.fi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss at ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/admin%40redcluster.net > > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss at ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/info%40ign.cz
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