[members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly
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Инна Арабаджи
navis.group at ukr.net
Fri Jul 20 11:09:38 CEST 2018
If they have 5 LIRs, so that means RIPE NCC gave them this possibility. Instead of attacking the company Bignet, which according to the policy registered 5 lirs. (You have the right to register as many LIRs as you want) you'd rather have paid attention to the problem they described. RIPE asks to pay for 3 months for the service that was not provided. If the payment is annual, ok, lets be the payment for the period 04.2018-04.2019. Kind regards, Inna --- Оригінальне повідомлення --- Від кого: "Viethen, Christoph" <viethen at itc.rwth-aachen.de> Дата: 19 липня 2018, 10:49:20 I'm getting the impression we have quite a lot of experts on Dutch law around on this list. Fascinating! Kind regards, C. From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Сергій Черьомуш <bestseller.group at ukr.net> Sent: 17 July 2018 11:26:59 To: Aleksey Bulgakov Cc: members-discuss at ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly "There isn't a secret that noncommercial organisation earns money and doesn't want to share it." Each organization has its own set of rules, but they can not contradict the law. I also do not understand how it is possible to bill for a service under the agreement "after the fact". Kind regards, Sergey Cheromush 17 липня 2018, 10:57:45, від "Aleksey Bulgakov" <aleksbulgakov at gmail.com>: Hi. There isn't a secret that noncommercial organisation earns money and doesn't want to share it. But it shows that it cares about members trying to keep IPv4 pool available for future business so long asit possible. But there is market where everyone can buy necessary IPv4 without request to mantioned organisation. вт, 17 Июл 2018 г., 9:05 Andrey Levrinets <levrinets.andrey at ukr.net>: Hi all, "A member must pay the full annual service fee for each LIR account(s) held before they can transfer resources or close their LIR account(s)" There is no word about accounts that have not been active for the full year. -- Andrey 16 липня 2018, 13:01:52, від "Freethought Hostmaster" <hostmaster at freethought-internet.co.uk>: Hi Jens, Actually, the RIPE service fee for new members is charged on a pro-rata basis, so if you join part way through the year, then you only pay for part of the year. I seem to recall that this is done down quarterly granularity. See https://www.ripe.net/participate/member-support/payment/billing-procedure-and-fee-schedule-2018#fees-for-new-members for example. Edward Dore Freethought Internet From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces at ripe.net> on behalf of Jens Ott <ripe at opteamax.de> Date: Monday, 16 July 2018 at 07:02 To: "members-discuss at ripe.net" <members-discuss at ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE forces us to pay the bill unfairly Hi, Please read the charging scheme carefully, it only talks about an annual fee. The offer to pay it in 4 steps is just an offer but doesn't change anything about the amount. There is no monthly fee or daily fee... There are no definitions that entering over the year reduces the costs. Maybe we should just remove that offer to not pay everything at once, this would decrease discussions and time for processing a transfer. BR Jens _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/levrinets.andrey%40ukr.net _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/aleksbulgakov%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/bestseller.group%40ukr.net _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss at ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/navis.group%40ukr.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20180720/703f2e2d/attachment.html>
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