[members-discuss] Input from Membership on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Model

Hi,

In the case someone missed it, there is already a training department :-) 
two IPv6 courses (https://www.ripe.net/support/training/courses), and even 
an IPv6 e-learning course (https://academy.ripe.net/).

This is only a personal opinion, but all the content is extremely well 
built. :-)

Regards,
Carlos Friaças


On Thu, 22 Sep 2016, Daniel Pearson wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> I would say you get a gold star for recommending something feasible and realistic. RIPE already had a budget excess of over 5 Mil EUR last year. I would not be
> opposed if RIPE was tasked with creating a department to help with IPv6 education through programs like that.
> 
> Daniel~
> 
> On 09/22/2016 11:51 AM, Tim Armstrong wrote:
>
>       Rather than bickering over the last scraps of IPv4, saving smaller LIRs a few hundred euros, attempting to somehow screw the older LIRs, or three at the
>       same time. Wouldn't our time be better spent working out ways to improve end user adoption of IPv6?
>
>       I'd like to propose RIPE set up a fund (summer of code style) for the implementation of native IPv6 support in open-source software (such as cloudsta k,
>       etc) and simplifying end-user adoption. Perhaps we should even offer a free public IPv6 tunnel service for natural persons similar to the service
>       currently offered by hurricane electric.
>
>       -Tim
> 
>
>       On 22 Sep 2016 6:13 p.m., "Floris Bos" <bos at je-eigen-domein.nl> wrote:
>             On 09/22/2016 01:57 PM, Daniel Pearson wrote:
>                   I'm not saying that a discussion is bad, but I'm simply saying that most of the discussions are being had are not based on fact.
>
>                   To my knowledge RIPE doesn't have a list of members categorized by assignment size, so this is something that someone would need
>                   to parse the RIPE db for, it's all public record so it can be done.
> 
>
>             Counting all allocated IPv4 each LIR has, and converting it back to CIDR:
>
>             CIDR    Number of LIRs
>
>             <= /24       1
>             <= /23       4
>             <= /22    6051
>             <= /21    1582
>             <= /20    1638
>             <= /19    1547
>             <= /18    1040
>             <= /17     709
>             <= /16     386
>             <= /15     293
>             <= /14     134
>             <= /13     110
>             <= /12      80
>             <= /11      64
>             <= /10      25
>             <=  /9      14
>             <=  /8       6
>             <=  /7       2
>
>             IPv6 only  241
> 
>
>             If we were to take ARIN's fees as example where up to and including /20 is less expensive than RIPE's current fees, 9276 out of the 13686
>             LIRs with IPv4 would pay less.
>             Not just new ones...
>
>             Total income would be similar.
> 
>
>             Yours sincerely,
>
>             Floris Bos
> 
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