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[members-discuss] IPv4 - Charging Won't Help You
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Mon Dec 16 14:10:28 CET 2013
Hi, On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 01:53:19PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > 1) large Italian ISP have answered that the will not implement IPv6, "it > costs too much and by the way we still need IPv4 for a looong time so no > way that we will implement it". They asked to implement ISP NAT which is > crazy to me, but they say they prefer it. I recommend that to all my competitors. It's their business decision, or maybe, out-of-business decision. We'll see... > 2) not having IPv6 content from large content provider (in some cases > the same large ISP/Telco) means that you need IPv4, natively An eyeball ISP will need to provide access to IPv4 service today, this nobody doubts. But this can be done with MAP or DS-Lite today, requiring much less IPv4 address space than for an IPv4-only ISP. Furthermore, the largest content in the world (Google, Youtube, Facebook, Akamai) is already IPv6 capable. > 3) in my opinion, the large Telco have no interest to start deploying > IPv6 (i.e. dual stack). For their market it's better to avoid IPv6 and > sell IPv4, they have a LARGE amount. Look again. Many of the largest Telcos in the world are already deploying IPv6 today. Like, Deutsche Telekom. [..] > 6) legally speaking, in Italy, 1 customer = 1 public IPv4. Therefore if > you do not have IPv4 you cannot do business, it's not a technical thing > it's a LEGAL thing. Then maybe you should work on that part as well. Regulations can be changed (if you find a working government). But I think it's great of some of the competition disappears from the market. More margin for the rest. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 826 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/attachments/20131216/339743f7/attachment.sig>
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