KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
David Conrad david.conrad at nominum.com
Thu Jun 6 17:59:58 CEST 2002
Hi, Just as a (potentially self-serving, apologies if this offends) aside, there are several companies that specialize in DNS hosting out there. The one that I'm most familiar with (Nominum's), co-locates our equipment at IXPs, has an open peering policy (of course), and has multiple (paid) transit providers. We decided upon this approach for exactly the reasons you indicate: they tend to be both more stable and more neutral than ISPs. We also believe locating at IXPs can reduce latency and improve performance. We were already providing secondary for one of the TLDs affected by ns.eu.net going away and would, of course, be happy to provide services to others. Rgds, -drc On 6/6/02 7:07 AM, "Nipper, Arnold" <arnold.nipper at de-cix.net> wrote: > > As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea > to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than > any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs. > > Comments? > > > Arnold > -- > Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange > email: arnold.nipper at de-cix.net > mobile: +49 172 2650958 > handle: an6695-ripe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <dolderer at denic.de> > To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <czmok at gatel.net> > Cc: <apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net>; <apops at lists.apnic.net>; <ddiaz at ripe.net>; > <joao at ripe.net>; <lir-wg at ripe.net>; <nanog at merit.edu>; <randy at psg.com>; > <routing-wg at ripe.net>; <tech-l at ams-ix.net> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > > Hello, > > DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some > other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer > secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of > security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run > on a single machine. > > Sabine > > -- > Sabine Dolderer > DENIC eG > Wiesenhüttenplatz 26 > D-60329 Frankfurt > > eMail: Sabine.Dolderer at denic.de > Fon: +49 69 27235 0 > Fax: +49 69 27235 235 > > > > Jan-Ahrent > Czmok An: Joao Luis Silva Damas > <joao at ripe.net> > <czmok at gatel. Kopie: randy at psg.com, > ddiaz at ripe.net, routing-wg at ripe.net, > net> lir-wg at ripe.net, tech-l at ams-ix.net, > apops at lists.apnic.net, > Gesendet von: nanog at merit.edu, > apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > owner-lir-wg@ Thema: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net > server. > ripe.net > > > 06.06.2002 > 01:29 > > > > > > > PostedDate: 06.06.2002 01:29:37 > $MessageID: <20020606012937.2c476312.czmok at gatel.net> > From: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > SendTo: Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> > CopyTo: > randy at psg.com;ddiaz at ripe.net;routing-wg at ripe.net;lir-wg at ripe.net;tech-l at ams- > ix.net;apops at lists.apnic.net;nanog at merit.edu;apnic-talk at lists.apnic.net > > Subject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > Received: from smtp.denic.de ([188.8.131.52]) by notes.denic.de > (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 2002060601283597:15602 > ; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:35 +0200 > Received: from postman.ripe.net (postman.ripe.net [184.108.40.206]) by > smtp.denic.de with smtp id 17FkCg-0004uX-00; Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:28:34 > +0200 > Received: (qmail 11455 invoked by alias); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Received: (qmail 11452 invoked by uid 66); 5 Jun 2002 23:28:15 -0000 > Delivered_To: lists-lir-wg-out at lists.ripe.net > PRINCIPAL: Jan-Ahrent Czmok <czmok at gatel.net> > In_Reply_To: <email@example.com> > References: <200206051725.g55HPlA05396 at birch.ripe.net> > <E17Ff8f-0003So-00 at roam.psg.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> > Organization: Global Access Telecommunications Inc. > $Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.6claws16 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu) > X_Ncc_RegID: de.gatel > MIME_Version: 1.0 > Precedence: bulk > X_Loop_Detect: RIPE NCC > SMTPOriginator: owner-lir-wg at ripe.net > RouteServers: CN=notes/O=Denic > RouteTimes: 06.06.2002 01:28:36-06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DeliveredDate: 06.06.2002 01:28:38 > DENICDOCOPENCOUNT: 1 > $MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on notes/Denic(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, > 2001) at 06.06.2002 01:28:36;MIME-CD by Notes Client on Sabine > Dolderer/Denic(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 06.06.2002 > 09:32:28;MIME-CD complete at 06.06.2002 09:32:28 > BlindCopyTo: > WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server. > > > On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200 > Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> wrote: > >> >> At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote: >>>> Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility >>>> of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in >>>> agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this >>>> server (ns.eu.net) in its premises. >>> >>> nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both >>> to get diversity. >> >> Hi Randy, >> >> there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both >> secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a >> new host as soon as possible. > > Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg, > > probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary > server for the ccTLDs. > > The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the > secondary > server. > > We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well. > >> The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since >> ns.eu.net will keep running. > > Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work. > >> >> We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that >> we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people. >> >> The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable >> people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of >> having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of >> events. >> >>> >>> when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something. >> >> Panic? what panic? this is just common sense >> > > right. it's not panic. > > --jan > > -- > Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks > Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - 60313 Frankfurt > voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: czmok at gatel.de > > > >
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