Private address and static IP as an commercial offer.

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 01:45:53PM +0300, Arif OKTAY wrote:
> I appreciate if  someone clarifies the situations for the following;
> 
> 1- Address Translation and Private Address Space Usage. Some of my 
> customers want to use public addresses with no technical reason. Their main 
> concern is to avoid the extra expenditure for a NAT/proxy/firewall. Should 
> I force them to use one ?

"I do not want to use NAT" *is* a valid reason for public address space.

RIPE policy is NOT to force NAT on people.  The policy is "tell people
that NAT exists, explain to them what the benefits are, tell them that
addresses *are* sparse, but if they want real addresses, give 'em some".

> 2- I've seen the following advertisement on the net. Doesn't this 
> constitute a violation of the policy as " IP addresses does not have any 
> commercial value". There wasn't any extra info whether this amount was 
> billed for dns records or any other service. Advertisement was from ARIN 
> region.

In the RIPE region, it's highly discouraged to offer IP addresses "for
money".  It's not too unusual, though, that a dynamic IP dialup account
*is* cheaper than one with static addresses (because it's much more
work for the ISP).  The real problem are things like "with this 
contract, you get 32 IPs, and for another $100/month, you get a full
Class C".

Gert Doering
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