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Re: Ofcom VoIP Public Forum

  • To: "Kennedy, Steve" < >
  • From: "Conroy, Lawrence (SMTP)" < >
  • Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 16:27:51 +0000

Hi Folks,
  note the amusing bit - must NOT provide Emergency service, ...
i.e. one can't provide even a partial outgoing service - VoIP
users MUST be left to drown/burn/... without informing anyone,
if incoming calls to them are provided via a number in the 056x range.

I wasn't at the meeting, and looking at the discussion document
I hadn't realised that this was the intention of the Regulator.

If that *was* stated at the meeting, then does this mean that,
were it possible to connect to the emergency services centre
by dialling out to 999 via a PSTN gateway (albeit without the
emergency services knowing the correct geo-loc of the caller
*automatically*), doing so would break the rules?

Was it also stated that a non-PACS provider must NOT provide
any of the other services under the normal obligations?


I had thought that the original intention was that customers
should KNOW that they were getting a service that MIGHT not
provide all of the good things under the obligations *as they
are normally defined*; not that partial provision was barred.

I do so love Regulations.

all the best,

On 15 Mar 2004, at 1:27 pm, Kennedy, Steve wrote:

Does anyone has any information (minutes, conclusion etc) of
the Ofcom
VoIP Public Forum held on 25th Feb?
It wasn't a VoIP forum it was the "Numbering arrangements for Voice
over Broadband services" (and there's a big difference).

In summary, if you're offering VoB services Ofcom want people to use
the 056 prefix (which is new, and similar to the corporate 055 prefix).
Assumed to be second line service which is NOTS PATS, which means you
must NOT provide Emergency services (or life line services), also no
DQ services, operator services, special facilities for end-users with
disabilities, itemised billing.

The paper is on the Ofcom website ( and responses to
be in by March 24th 2004.


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