RE: ENUM trials in general
- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 06:38:19 -0800
comments in line
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stastny Richard [
]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:55 AM
> To: Jim Reid
> Subject: RE: ENUM trials in general
>
>
> I think people are always mixing up trials and commercial
> applications. What is the reason of a trial:
>
> According to Robert W. Lucky the reason for trials is:
> develop the technology
> understand the economics
> discover the difficulties
> (and claim your stake)
>
> and I add another reason: get cheap beta-testers
>
> these guys do not have a problem with privacy, so
> what is the problem?
>
> For a commercial application we may set up a white page
> with opt-in, again what is the problem.
>
> A ENUM subsciber opt-in in User ENUM does anyway have no serios
> problem with privacy and a nonlisted subscriber opting in in ENUM
> needs to have his head examined anyway.
We disagree with this statement. Even though I opt-in into ENUM I still
want some of my information kept private. Today I can scan the whois
database and not only get your domain information (much like a URI) but how
about your home address or office address. Maybe I could show up at your
door step just to say hello ;-(
>
> Most people talking about nonlisted numbers in ENUM (and
> blocks of telco numbers) are mixing up User and Infrastructure
> ENUM. Of course I cannot ask using ENUM for IN replacement if
> the subscriber of a ported number is going into the IN (ENUM)
> database.
>
> But in this case there is no privacy problem if I translate a E.164
> number
> to a routing number e.g. +43178780 to 8620178780. Even if someone
> queries this, he does not know more afterwards then before.
>
> regards
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Reid [
]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: Stastny Richard
> > Cc: Sabine Dolderer/Denic; Michael Haberler;
> > axel.pawlik@localhost carsten@localhost
> > daniel.karrenberg@localhost enum-trials@localhost
> > marco.bernardi@localhost richard@localhost
> > Subject: Re: ENUM trials in general
> >
> >
> > I am not convinced of the need for whois (either in general
> > or for ENUM in particular). There is general consensus within
> > the UK ENUM Group that a whois functionality is neither
> > necessary nor desirable. I suppose this could change in light
> > of experience gained during the trial.
> >
> > For ENUM, I think that ultimately DNS hosting will be done by
> > the telco or equivalent entity that's responsible for some
> > number block. If that's true, this entity can be the initial
> > point of contact for any DNS technical issues which crop up.
> > I wonder how often whois gets genuinely used for that purpose
> > today? And for ENUM, there will be cases where people will
> > want to register a domain and NOT have a whois entry at all:
> > an unlisted phone number perhaps. I believe that some
> > regulators can get uptight about providing a reverse lookup
> > capability on telephone numbers.
> >
>
